The Late Great Urantia Revelation

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Caino

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He was a jew of jews, a doctor of the law and arguably one of the most authors The Lord made use of to pen His Holy Scriptures. Actually, He met the same Jesus the other apostles did... the same one I did and the same one Whom you need to be introduced to: The Holy Ghost.Paul did no such thing. No, that was God's invention. He gave His Own Son as a sacrificial lamb and planned it from the foundation of the earth.The symbolism of Passover and Christ's fulfillment of what was symbolized is obvious. Paul didn't introduce the eternal Passover celebration, God did, the night He freed the Israelites from Egypt.He also didn't invent that one. You really need to read the Gospels.No, The Gospel is what leads men to eternal life, but only through Christ's Blood.Jesus certainly did...

John 2:19
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

John 12:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Mark 10:45
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Those are His Words!We stray from the papers because they have no authority. The Word of God is all the authority men need.If I do become frustrated, it will only be due to your ignorance, not any shortcomings you might point out for me that I need to repent of.

You shouldn't curse. You see frustrated. Are you going to start ignoring me next?


I have wondered at times if you were frustrated about being gay and not accepted by Paul the fake apostle. You seem to have control problems which is characteristic of religious addicts who live the double life. I had you on ignore because of your stalking and obsession with our thread.


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"The world needs more firsthand religion. Even Christianity — the best of the religions of the twentieth century — is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand. They take their religion wholly as handed down by their accepted religious teachers. What an awakening the world would experience if it could only see Jesus as he really lived on earth and know, firsthand, his life-giving teachings! Descriptive words of things beautiful cannot thrill like the sight thereof, neither can creedal words inspire men's souls like the experience of knowing the presence of God. But expectant faith will ever keep the hope-door of man's soul open for the entrance of the eternal spiritual realities of the divine values of the worlds beyond." (2083.4) 195:9.8


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Aimiel

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Again, the Urantia papers prove that they are from beneath. God would never inspire such nonsense. Religion is an enemy of God. He didn't come to establish a religion or He would have built buildings and started a denomination. He came to give man back the ability to have relationship, since there's already too much religion. He came to teach us that to keep the laws He had men write down to establish the only religion He actually created (Judaism) all we had to do now was walk in love towards God and men with Him inside of us to succeed. His goodness leads us to repentance. His Spirit causes rivers of living water to flow out of each of us. His Blood cleanses us of our sin. His Presence sanctifies our lives and gives us new purpose every day. His Word guides and corrects us to keep us on the path of life. Reading a false gospel isn't possible when one is in a relationship with The Living God. He won't hold still for it. He knows it's the work of the devil. He keeps us from evil. He leads us beside still waters. He prepares a table before us in the presence of our enemies. He is so good and holy and we are so fortunate to be His children. He loves us and cares for us and will never leave us or forsake us. Thinking that you are His and trying to promote the works of a devil is like standing on the front steps of the White House thinking you're the president and demanding that Al Qaeda's agenda be taken as authority. You are not a spokesman for Christ. He is not in the Urantia book. Jebus is your god... a false Christ... the spirit of anti-Christ. Christians are the light of the world. The light that is in Urantia is darkness. That is what is in you and Paul: GREAT darkness. Repent!!!
 

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Today many of the sick preachers of Christendom exploit the fear of ghost, goblins and the Satan monster in order to manipulate sincere people into bigoted intolerance. These frightened zombies then go out and preach this silly stuff to others but then wonder why people no longer buy those inconsistent, retarding doctrines.

But what happened to the old gospel?



"Their message has suddenly shifted..."


194:4.4 What has happened to these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man? They have a new gospel; they are on fire with a new experience; they are filled with a new spiritual energy. Their message has suddenly shifted to the proclamation of the risen Christ: “Jesus of Nazareth, a man God approved by mighty works and wonders; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you did crucify and slay. The things which God foreshadowed by the mouth of all the prophets, he thus fulfilled. This Jesus did God raise up. God has made him both Lord and Christ. Being by the right hand of God, exalted, and having received from the Father the promise of the spirit, he has poured forth this which you see and hear. Repent, that your sins may be blotted out; that the Father may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you, even Jesus, whom the heaven must receive until the times of the restoration of all things.”

194:4.5 The gospel of the kingdom, the message of Jesus, had been suddenly changed into the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. They now proclaimed the facts of his life, death, and resurrection and preached the hope of his speedy return to this world to finish the work he began. Thus the message of the early believers had to do with preaching about the facts of his first coming and with teaching the hope of his second coming, an event which they deemed to be very near at hand.



The egotism of the preachers and their false authority then takes over:

121:7.4 By the time of the first century after Christ the spoken interpretation of the law by the recognized teachers, the scribes, had become a higher authority than the written law itself. And all this made it easier for certain religious leaders of the Jews to array the people against the acceptance of a new gospel.


5:4.10 The Christian concept of God is an attempt to combine three separate teachings:

1. The Hebrew concept—God as a vindicator of moral values, a righteous God.
2. The Greek concept—God as a unifier, a God of wisdom.
3. Jesus' concept—God as a living friend, a loving Father, the divine presence.

5:4.14 It must therefore be evident that composite Christian theology encounters great difficulty in attaining consistency. This difficulty is further aggravated by the fact that the doctrines of early Christianity were generally based on the personal religious experience of three different persons: Philo of Alexandria, Jesus of Nazareth, and Paul of Tarsus.



Today, institutional pride prohibits Christians from reforming the church, besides, they spend most of their time confessing the sins of the rest of the world rather then getting honest about their dyeing dinosaur.

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Paul was a Pagan impostor, he was never picked nor taught by Jesus, he barged in and made compromises with the Pagans and their existing belief in a sacrificed savior, blood drinking, a virgin birth on December 25th. Christianity as it evolved is a mere shadow of the original gospel. Jesus didn't teach human sacrifice but Paul's Pagan beliefs already did.

We've strayed from the papers because you have never read them so you speak out of ignorance. You seem frustrated that the usual christian BS isn't working here.

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BS??? Someone called? tWINs
 

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Paul was wise enough to interpret the OT scriptures figuratively or allegorically, perhaps he was aware of the obvious exaggerations and outright porkies therein.

After the Hebrew priest rewrote the OT books and destroyed all the history books they could find the new writings became scripture in this way:


74:8.11 When the Jewish priests returned to Jerusalem, they had already completed the writing of their narrative of the beginning of things. Soon they made claims that this recital was a recently discovered story of creation written by Moses. But the contemporary Hebrews of around 500 B.C. did not consider these writings to be divine revelations; they looked upon them much as later peoples regard mythological narratives.

74:8.12 This spurious document, reputed to be the teachings of Moses, was brought to the attention of Ptolemy, the Greek king of Egypt, who had it translated into Greek by a commission of seventy scholars for his new library at Alexandria. And so this account found its place among those writings which subsequently became a part of the later collections of the "sacred scriptures" of the Hebrew and Christian religions. And through identification with these theological systems, such concepts for a long time profoundly influenced the philosophy of many Occidental peoples.

74:8.13 The Christian teachers perpetuated the belief in the fiat creation of the human race, and all this led directly to the formation of the hypothesis of a onetime golden age of utopian bliss and the theory of the fall of man or superman which accounted for the nonutopian condition of society. These outlooks on life and man's place in the universe were at best discouraging since they were predicated upon a belief in retrogression rather than progression, as well as implying a vengeful Deity, who had vented wrath upon the human race in retribution for the errors of certain onetime planetary administrators.



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Aimiel

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Today many of the sick preachers of Christendom exploit the fear of ghost, goblins and the Satan monster in order to manipulate sincere people into bigoted intolerance. These frightened zombies then go out and preach this silly stuff to others but then wonder why people no longer buy those inconsistent, retarding doctrines.
Yeah... especially this nutcase:

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils. And, behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus: and when they saw him, they besought him that he would depart out of their coasts.

Jesus talked to them and they obeyed. He then charged us with doing the same. Yes, we should keep away from people like Him. :duh:
 

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I do agree (slightly) with Caino's statement that we need to recover The Gospel message. We have lost the message and the cross. We need to preach The Blood more and we need to preach the cross more. Too many people don't preach that it is only Jesus' Blood that can cleanse away sin and too many also don't preach that we all need to take up our cross daily, expecting any day to be put to death for preaching His Truth. One day the price of salvation will be martyrdom.

Revelation 6:11
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
 

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While there were several cases of rebel angels going into mentally disturbed people and Jesus calling them out, the demon-swine episode was not a real demonic possession.

After Jesus left the rebels were all bond and taken away, demons no longer exist and Satan is gone as well.


The Kheresa Lunatic

(1695.4) 151:6.1 Although most of the near-by eastern shore of the lake sloped up gently to the highlands beyond, at this particular spot there was a steep hillside, the shore in some places dropping sheer down into the lake. Pointing up to the side of the near-by hill, Jesus said: “Let us go up on this hillside for our breakfast and under some of the shelters rest and talk.”

(1695.5) 151:6.2 This entire hillside was covered with caverns which had been hewn out of the rock. Many of these niches were ancient sepulchres. About halfway up the hillside on a small, relatively level spot was the cemetery of the little village of Kheresa. As Jesus and his associates passed near this burial ground, a lunatic who lived in these hillside caverns rushed up to them. This demented man was well known about these parts, having onetime been bound with fetters and chains and confined in one of the grottoes. Long since he had broken his shackles and now roamed at will among the tombs and abandoned sepulchres. *

(1696.1) 151:6.3 This man, whose name was Amos, was afflicted with a periodic form of insanity. There were considerable spells when he would find some clothing and deport himself fairly well among his fellows. During one of these lucid intervals he had gone over to Bethsaida, where he heard the preaching of Jesus and the apostles, and at that time had become a halfhearted believer in the gospel of the kingdom. But soon a stormy phase of his trouble appeared, and he fled to the tombs, where he moaned, cried out aloud, and so conducted himself as to terrorize all who chanced to meet him.

(1696.2) 151:6.4 When Amos recognized Jesus, he fell down at his feet and exclaimed: “I know you, Jesus, but I am possessed of many devils, and I beseech that you will not torment me.” This man truly believed that his periodic mental affliction was due to the fact that, at such times, evil or unclean spirits entered into him and dominated his mind and body. His troubles were mostly emotional — his brain was not grossly diseased.

(1696.3) 151:6.5 Jesus, looking down upon the man crouching like an animal at his feet, reached down and, taking him by the hand, stood him up and said to him: “Amos, you are not possessed of a devil; you have already heard the good news that you are a son of God. I command you to come out of this spell.” And when Amos heard Jesus speak these words, there occurred such a transformation in his intellect that he was immediately restored to his right mind and the normal control of his emotions. By this time a considerable crowd had assembled from the near-by village, and these people, augmented by the swine herders from the highland above them, were astonished to see the lunatic sitting with Jesus and his followers, in possession of his right mind and freely conversing with them.

(1696.4) 151:6.6 As the swine herders rushed into the village to spread the news of the taming of the lunatic, the dogs charged upon a small and untended herd of about thirty swine and drove most of them over a precipice into the sea. And it was this incidental occurrence, in connection with the presence of Jesus and the supposed miraculous curing of the lunatic, that gave origin to the legend that Jesus had cured Amos by casting a legion of devils out of him, and that these devils had entered into the herd of swine, causing them forthwith to rush headlong to their destruction in the sea below. Before the day was over, this episode was published abroad by the swine tenders, and the whole village believed it. Amos most certainly believed this story; he saw the swine tumbling over the brow of the hill shortly after his troubled mind had quieted down, and he always believed that they carried with them the very evil spirits which had so long tormented and afflicted him. And this had a good deal to do with the permanency of his cure. It is equally true that all of Jesus’ apostles (save Thomas) believed that the episode of the swine was directly connected with the cure of Amos.

(1696.5) 151:6.7 Jesus did not obtain the rest he was looking for. Most of that day he was thronged by those who came in response to the word that Amos had been cured, and who were attracted by the story that the demons had gone out of the lunatic into the herd of swine. And so, after only one night of rest, early Tuesday morning Jesus and his friends were awakened by a delegation of these swine-raising gentiles who had come to urge that he depart from their midst. Said their spokesman to Peter and Andrew: “Fishermen of Galilee, depart from us and take your prophet with you. We know he is a holy man, but the gods of our country do not know him, and we stand in danger of losing many swine. The fear of you has descended upon us, so that we pray you to go hence.” And when Jesus heard them, he said to Andrew, “Let us return to our place.”

(1697.1) 151:6.8 As they were about to depart, Amos besought Jesus to permit him to go back with them, but the Master would not consent. Said Jesus to Amos: “Forget not that you are a son of God. Return to your own people and show them what great things God has done for you.” And Amos went about publishing that Jesus had cast a legion of devils out of his troubled soul, and that these evil spirits had entered into a herd of swine, driving them to quick destruction. And he did not stop until he had gone into all the cities of the Decapolis, declaring what great things Jesus had done for him.
 

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Those who believe The Holy Bible (which has never once been proven wrong on a single point-of-fact regarding the history of antiquity) don't worship The Bible, we simply recognize Truth when He speaks. The Holy Bible is God's Written Word. Because that Word leads us into a dynamic relationship with The Living Word, Who is alive and well, we are in a relationship with The Author of all Creation. Just like bank tellers, who easily recognize counterfeit money because they handle the real thing all day long we easily recognize counterfeit gods.


The bible is just a book, its power is in ones thoughts, if we believe in demons and devils then that illusion will manifest in our perception, damnation, hell, doctrines, only have power if we believe they exist, like santa clause is taught to children, the elitist teach man what to believe, they know the truth about the human conscience and its abilty once its unleashed by uncondistional love, if that happens santa clause goes away along with all his superfical spiritual gifts.

We Sons/Daughters need to listen to the thoughts of our mother earth and our Heavenly Father, and those thoughts lead away from this worlds religions and goverments run by fear and deception, we must embrace whats ahead with love not hate, or we will live out the illusions of destruction.

Division is the enemy, dogma against dogma, race against race, male against female.

Its hard to except we are wrong, we have played the game so long its hard to break old habits of arrogance, fear and pride, but those only hurt us don't they?

Grace, and peace, Zeke.
 

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On several occasions the scripture worshipers, (whose father Jesus referred to as "the devil"), attempted to entrap Jesus be using the Law in an attempt to align the people against him. Their beliefs were built on authority and tradition rather then allowing the spirit of the living word to guide them as taught and practiced by Jesus.



174:4.2 Then came forward one of the groups of the Pharisees to ask harassing questions, and the spokesman, signaling to Jesus, said: “Master, I am a lawyer, and I would like to ask you which, in your opinion, is the greatest commandment?” Jesus answered: “There is but one commandment, and that one is the greatest of all, and that commandment is: `Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second commandment is like this first; indeed, it springs directly therefrom, and it is: `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these; on these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

174:4.3 When the lawyer perceived that Jesus had answered not only in accordance with the highest concept of Jewish religion, but that he had also answered wisely in the sight of the assembled multitude, he thought it the better part of valor openly to commend the Master’s reply. Accordingly, he said: “Of a truth, Master, you have well said that God is one and there is none beside him; and that to love him with all the heart, understanding, and strength, and also to love one’s neighbor as one’s self, is the first and great commandment; and we are agreed that this great commandment is much more to be regarded than all the burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When the lawyer answered thus discreetly, Jesus looked down upon him and said,
“My friend, I perceive that you are not far from the kingdom of God.”

174:4.4 Jesus spoke the truth when he referred to this lawyer as being “not far from the kingdom,” for that very night he went out to the Master’s camp near Gethsemane, professed faith in the gospel of the kingdom, and was baptized by Josiah, one of the disciples of Abner.


In this age the evil church continues the same practice of authoritarianism and traditionalism in order to control, profit and subsequently stamp out and new revelation of truth.


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Aimiel

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While there were several cases of rebel angels going into mentally disturbed people and Jesus calling them out, the demon-swine episode was not a real demonic possession.
I have no idea why you might think that or see any reason for it to explain away the truth stated in Scripture.
After Jesus left the rebels were all bond and taken away, demons no longer exist and Satan is gone as well.
What makes you think that?
 

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The bible is just a book, its power is in ones thoughts, if we believe in demons and devils then that illusion will manifest in our perception, damnation, hell, doctrines, only have power if we believe they exist, like santa clause is taught to children, the elitist teach man what to believe, they know the truth about the human conscience and its (ability) once its unleashed by (unconditional) love, if that happens santa clause goes away along with all his (superficial) spiritual gifts.
Scripture isn't 'just a book' but is a roadmap leading to a relationship with The Living God. One of the precepts taught in It is that demons exist and their presence and power should not be ignored. As believers we have power and authority over them, though most churches don't have proper understanding or teaching in this regard.
We Sons/Daughters need to listen to the thoughts of our mother earth and our Heavenly Father, and those thoughts lead away from this worlds religions and (governments) run by fear and deception, we must embrace whats ahead with love not hate, or we will live out the illusions of destruction.
Mother earth? You mean like mother nature? Is she related to the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny? God is real. Demons are real. Those who believe God's Word live in reality. Believers can have perfect hatred. I love every soul on this earth. I hate the spirits that lead men to do evil deeds, but the ones whom God's Word was sent: I love. God wants all men to be saved. His Love is shared by believers. We love those whom God wants saved. That's why we're still here on this earth: to suffer and die trying to get the Gospel message to them to deliver them from hell.
Division is the enemy, dogma against dogma, race against race, male against female.
Not only does division cause strife among men but it also causes strife among demons. They hate each other almost as much as they hate men. That is the reason that Philistine troops attempting to make war against Israel were led to kill one another in Samuel. The demons that were driving them got confused by their own zealous hatred and caused them to attack their own men.
Its hard to except we are wrong, we have played the game so long its hard to break old habits of arrogance, fear and pride, but those only hurt us don't they?
It's hard to bring down a stronghold of pride in someone, because their pride won't let them admit that they're wounded and because of pride they keep causing harm to themselves.
 

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I have no idea why you might think that or see any reason for it to explain away the truth stated in Scripture.What makes you think that?

John talked about some things that were past tense in his book of revelation but that book didn't survive in tact so there are many schools of thought about what it means.

Jesus defeated the rebels in righteousness; they were all bound at the time of the dispensational resurrection when Jesus ascended into heaven.

Jesus sent the Urantia Revelation which reveals so much more about the history of earth. The master settled the Lucifer rebellion on mt Herman just prior to his baptism.


Jesus deals the final blow to Lucifer ..."near the middle of August, A.D. 25"

January AD 26 at noon Jesus was baptised by John



The Sojourn on Mount Hermon

(1492.8) 134:8.1 After spending some time in the vicinity of Caesarea-Philippi, Jesus made ready his supplies, and securing a beast of burden and a lad named Tiglath, he proceeded along the Damascus road to a village sometime known as Beit Jenn in the foothills of Mount Hermon. Here, near the middle of August, A.D. 25, he established his headquarters, and leaving his supplies in the custody of Tiglath, he ascended the lonely slopes of the mountain. Tiglath accompanied Jesus this first day up the mountain to a designated point about 6,000 feet above sea level, where they built a stone container in which Tiglath was to deposit food twice a week. *

(1493.1) 134:8.2 The first day, after he had left Tiglath, Jesus had ascended the mountain only a short way when he paused to pray. Among other things he asked his Father to send back the guardian seraphim to “be with Tiglath.” He requested that he be permitted to go up to his last struggle with the realities of mortal existence alone. And his request was granted. He went into the great test with only his indwelling Adjuster to guide and sustain him.

(1493.2) 134:8.3 Jesus ate frugally while on the mountain; he abstained from all food only a day or two at a time. The superhuman beings who confronted him on this mountain, and with whom he wrestled in spirit, and whom he defeated in power, were real; they were his archenemies in the system of Satania; they were not phantasms of the imagination evolved out of the intellectual vagaries of a weakened and starving mortal who could not distinguish reality from the visions of a disordered mind.

(1493.3) 134:8.4 Jesus spent the last three weeks of August and the first three weeks of September on Mount Hermon. During these weeks he finished the mortal task of achieving the circles of mind-understanding and personality-control. Throughout this period of communion with his heavenly Father the indwelling Adjuster also completed the assigned services. The mortal goal of this earth creature was there attained. Only the final phase of mind and Adjuster attunement remained to be consummated.

(1493.4) 134:8.5 After more than five weeks of unbroken communion with his Paradise Father, Jesus became absolutely assured of his nature and of the certainty of his triumph over the material levels of time-space personality manifestation. He fully believed in, and did not hesitate to assert, the ascendancy of his divine nature over his human nature.

(1493.5) 134:8.6 Near the end of the mountain sojourn Jesus asked his Father if he might be permitted to hold conference with his Satania enemies as the Son of Man, as Joshua ben Joseph. This request was granted. During the last week on Mount Hermon the great temptation, the universe trial, occurred. Satan (representing Lucifer) and the rebellious Planetary Prince, Caligastia, were present with Jesus and were made fully visible to him. And this “temptation,” this final trial of human loyalty in the face of the misrepresentations of rebel personalities, had not to do with food, temple pinnacles, or presumptuous acts. It had not to do with the kingdoms of this world but with the sovereignty of a mighty and glorious universe. The symbolism of your records was intended for the backward ages of the world’s childlike thought. And subsequent generations should understand what a great struggle the Son of Man passed through that eventful day on Mount Hermon.

(1493.6) 134:8.7 To the many proposals and counterproposals of the emissaries of Lucifer, Jesus only made reply: “May the will of my Paradise Father prevail, and you, my rebellious son, may the Ancients of Days judge you divinely. I am your Creator-father; I can hardly judge you justly, and my mercy you have already spurned. I commit you to the adjudication of the Judges of a greater universe.”

(1494.1) 134:8.8 To all the Lucifer-suggested compromises and makeshifts, to all such specious proposals about the incarnation bestowal, Jesus only made reply, “The will of my Father in Paradise be done.” And when the trying ordeal was finished, the detached guardian seraphim returned to Jesus’ side and ministered to him.

(1494.2) 134:8.9 On an afternoon in late summer, amid the trees and in the silence of nature, Michael of Nebadon won the unquestioned sovereignty of his universe. On that day he completed the task set for Creator Sons to live to the full the incarnated life in the likeness of mortal flesh on the evolutionary worlds of time and space. The universe announcement of this momentous achievement was not made until the day of his baptism, months afterward, but it all really took place that day on the mountain. And when Jesus came down from his sojourn on Mount Hermon, the Lucifer rebellion in Satania and the Caligastia secession on Urantia were virtually settled. Jesus had paid the last price required of him to attain the sovereignty of his universe, which in itself regulates the status of all rebels and determines that all such future upheavals (if they ever occur) may be dealt with summarily and effectively. Accordingly, it may be seen that the so-called “great temptation” of Jesus took place sometime before his baptism and not just after that event. *

(1494.3) 134:8.10 At the end of this sojourn on the mountain, as Jesus was making his descent, he met Tiglath coming up to the rendezvous with food. Turning him back, he said only: “The period of rest is over; I must return to my Father’s business.” He was a silent and much changed man as they journeyed back to Dan, where he took leave of the lad, giving him the donkey. He then proceeded south by the same way he had come, to Capernaum.
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610.2) 53:8.6 The last act of Michael before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.


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What was a demon?


The Rebel Midwayers



(863.2) 77:7.1 The majority of the primary midwayers went into sin at the time of the Lucifer rebellion. When the devastation of the planetary rebellion was reckoned up, among other losses it was discovered that of the original 50,000, 40,119 had joined the Caligastia secession.

(863.3) 77:7.2 The original number of secondary midwayers was 1,984, and of these 873 failed to align themselves with the rule of Michael and were duly interned in connection with the planetary adjudication of Urantia on the day of Pentecost. No one can forecast the future of these fallen creatures.

(863.4) 77:7.3 Both groups of rebel midwayers are now held in custody awaiting the final adjudication of the affairs of the system rebellion. But they did many strange things on earth prior to the inauguration of the present planetary dispensation.

(863.5) 77:7.4 These disloyal midwayers were able to reveal themselves to mortal eyes under certain circumstances, and especially was this true of the associates of Beelzebub, the leader of the apostate secondary midwayers. But these unique creatures must not be confused with certain of the rebel cherubim and seraphim who also were on earth up to the time of Christ’s death and resurrection. Some of the older writers designated these rebellious midway creatures as evil spirits and demons, and the apostate seraphim as evil angels.

(863.6) 77:7.5 On no world can evil spirits possess any mortal mind subsequent to the life of a Paradise bestowal Son. But before the days of Christ Michael on Urantia — before the universal coming of the Thought Adjusters and the pouring out of the Master’s spirit upon all flesh — these rebel midwayers were actually able to influence the minds of certain inferior mortals and somewhat to control their actions. This was accomplished in much the same way as the loyal midway creatures function when they serve as efficient contact guardians of the human minds of the Urantia reserve corps of destiny at those times when the Adjuster is, in effect, detached from the personality during a season of contact with superhuman intelligences.

(863.7) 77:7.6 It is no mere figure of speech when the record states: “And they brought to Him all sorts of sick people, those who were possessed by devils and those who were lunatics.” Jesus knew and recognized the difference between insanity and demoniacal possession, although these states were greatly confused in the minds of those who lived in his day and generation. *

(863.8) 77:7.7 Even prior to Pentecost no rebel spirit could dominate a normal human mind, and since that day even the weak minds of inferior mortals are free from such possibilities. The supposed casting out of devils since the arrival of the Spirit of Truth has been a matter of confounding a belief in demoniacal possession with hysteria, insanity, and feeble-mindedness. But just because Michael’s bestowal has forever liberated all human minds on Urantia from the possibility of demoniacal possession, do not imagine that such was not a reality in former ages.

(864.1) 77:7.8 The entire group of rebel midwayers is at present held prisoner by order of the Most Highs of Edentia. No more do they roam this world on mischief bent. Regardless of the presence of the Thought Adjusters, the pouring out of the Spirit of Truth upon all flesh forever made it impossible for disloyal spirits of any sort or description ever again to invade even the most feeble of human minds. Since the day of Pentecost there never again can be such a thing as demoniacal possession.


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Rimbauld

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Hi to all on this The Late Great Urantia Revelation - Just want you to know how absolutely fascinating I find the discussion (rude posts et al) Have started reading from the first page and have many more to go to catch up with you all; but Wow! This is really awesome stuff...

'K, won't be interrupting for quite some time; just too much to wade through :p
 

Zeke

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In Love there is no fear. All inspired writing is 'channeled' and subject to inspection :) - 'God' uses human vessels, minds and vehicles to share light, knowledge, truth according to man's capacity during whatever dispensation.


Life is a learning adventure and we are not alone in the Universe,



pj

Exactly, fear based channeling is why I woke up and joined the rest of organic humanity, perfect love is the only medicine that will desolve that fear and lie, Blessings Zeke.
 

Caino

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Human sacrifice or sacrifice of a divine Son of God incarnate is an idea that was completely foreign to the original, pre-cross gospel of Jesus. Atonement was part of the Pagan doctrine that merged with evolving Christian theology in the western world.


170:2.23 Jesus taught that sin is not the child of a defective nature but rather the offspring of a knowing mind dominated by an unsubmissive will. Regarding sin, he taught that God has forgiven; that we make such forgiveness personally available by the act of forgiving our fellows. When you forgive your brother in the flesh, you thereby create the capacity in your own soul for the reception of the reality of God’s forgiveness of your own misdeeds.


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