ECT The fate of BACs who fail to remain “in Christ”

ZacharyB

Active member
John 15 (NLT)
1 I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener.
2 He cuts off EVERY BRANCH OF MINE that doesn’t produce fruit,
4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit
if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
5 Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them,
will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.
6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers.
Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned.

7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you,
you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!
9 … Remain in my love.
10 When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love,
just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.


Jesus explains about remaining “in Christ”
● If you remain, He remains in you (v.4)
● If you remain, you will produce much fruit (v.5)
● If you remain (and you believe His words), your prayers will be granted (v.7)
● If you obey His commandments, you remain in His love (v.10)
Is remaining in His love the same as remaining in Him?

A parallel verse to John 15:10 above …
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
(just) as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” (Rev 3:21)

Jesus overcame sin, the world, the devil, and death.

The NT warns BACs to remain in the faith
Do NOT fall away from the faith … Luke 8:13, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Hebrews 6:6
Do NOT fall from grace … Galatians 5:4, 2 Peter 3:17, Revelation 2:5
Do NOT draw back to perdition … Hebrews 10:39
etc.

There are many NT verses which warn BACs to endure in the faith
until the end of their lives so they will ultimately receive eternal life!
This enduring in the faith is about being faithful (obedient) to Jesus and His teachings.
Yes, salvation is a life-long process.
 
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ZacharyB

Active member
Most BACs in the corrupt dead churches
reject God's warnings in the NT,
which are confirmed more and more
these days by God's prophets & watchmen!

Many, many BACs these days see very clearly
that most churches today are FAST ASLEEP!

Habitual sin must be overcome for BACs to be
welcomed into heaven to live with a Holy God.

BACs were/are called to be sanctified unto holiness,
without which no one will see the Lord.

slave of obedience >> righteousness
slave of righteousness >> holiness
slave of sin >> eternal death
 

oatmeal

Well-known member
John 15 (NLT)
1 I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener.
2 He cuts off EVERY BRANCH OF MINE that doesn’t produce fruit,
4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit
if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
5 Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them,
will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.
6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers.
Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned.

7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you,
you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!
9 … Remain in my love.
10 When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love,
just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.


Jesus explains about remaining “in Christ”
● If you remain, He remains in you (v.4)
● If you remain, you will produce much fruit (v.5)
● If you remain (and you believe His words), your prayers will be granted (v.7)
● If you obey His commandments, you remain in His love (v.10)
Is remaining in His love the same as remaining in Him?

A parallel verse to John 15:10 above …
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
(just) as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” (Rev 3:21)

Jesus overcame sin, the world, the devil, and death.

The NT warns BACs to remain in the faith
Do NOT fall away from the faith … Luke 8:13, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Hebrews 6:6
Do NOT fall from grace … Galatians 5:4, 2 Peter 3:17, Revelation 2:5
Do NOT draw back to perdition … Hebrews 10:39
etc.

There are many NT verses which warn BACs to endure in the faith
until the end of their lives so they will ultimately receive eternal life!
This enduring in the faith is about being faithful (obedient) to Jesus and His teachings.
Yes, salvation is a life-long process.

Eternal life was not a gift in the gospel period.

It was not given until the day of Pentecost.

Before that eternal life was earned by works and faithfulness still with a lot of grace and mercy from God, but the grace before Pentecost does not compare to the grace we live in and by
 
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