The Essay of Mark Twain About the Jews

[Ben Masada]

The Essay of Mark Twain About the Jews

good - then you understand why i don't feel responsible for the actions of others good one!

Yes but that you find irresponsible pleasure to slander others for what they did not do, as long as they are Jews.
Why don't you give us a break for a change?

 

[genuineoriginal]

do you feel shame for killing Christ?

Jews did not kill Christ.
Romans killed Christ.

(Just wait until Cruciform tries to refute that with his links).

 

[ok doser]

We all killed Christ

 

[Ben Masada]

We all killed Christ

If you mean Jesus, it is still not true. Only the Romans killed Jesus as a result of his stupid disciples that day at the entrance of Jerusalem which at that time was a Roman province. A local Jew had no business being acclaimed king of the Jews where Caesar was king. It is nice to face reality some times.(Luke 19:37-40)

 

[genuineoriginal]

If you mean Jesus, it is still not true. Only the Romans killed Jesus as a result of his stupid disciples that day at the entrance of Jerusalem which at that time was a Roman province. A local Jew had no business being acclaimed king of the Jews where Caesar was king. It is nice to face reality some times.(Luke 19:37-40)

Be a bit more careful what you say about the disciples of Jesus.

The disciples had nothing to do with the death of Jesus except for Judas Iscariot who betrayed Him to the chief priests and elders.

The record shows that the Romans killed Jesus because the chief priests and elders persuaded the Jewish crowds to demand the death of Jesus.

 

[Ben Masada]

The Essay of Mark Twain About the Jews

Be a bit more careful what you say about the disciples of Jesus.

The disciples had nothing to do with the death of Jesus except for Judas Iscariot who betrayed Him to the chief priests and elders.

The record shows that the Romans killed Jesus because the chief priests and elders persuaded the Jewish crowds to demand the death of Jesus.

Is it a lie to say that Jesus was being acclaimed king of the Jews by his disciples at the entrance of Jerusalem? No. (Luke 19:37-39) Is it a lie to say that Jerusalem was a Roman province at that time? No. Is it a lie to say that the Pharisees tried to save Jesus from being arrested because of that stupid acclamation? No. Was Jesus king of the Jews? No. Now, we have the reason why the disciples of Jesus were playing the stupid which caused the death of Jesus. Reason for the death of Jesus? INRI.

Don't forget though that I am not referring to the 12 but to the 70. Jesus had 70 disciples in the category of disciples and not apostles. That's what the apostles of Jesus said to Paul when this tried to join them; that he could not be even a disciple, let alone an apostle. (Acts 9:26) from the NAB translation.

 

[aikido7]

he mixes the blood of Christian babies in his matzos?

That is a primitive belief which was used by many in the medieval world as well as Hitler and the German people in the 30s and 40s. No one with common sense takes these paranoid fantasies seriously today.

The only thing that remains from this thinking is Anti-Semitic prejudices passed down to the present by ancient people.

 

[ok doser]

That is a primitive belief which was used by many in the medieval world as well as Hitler and the German people in the 30s and 40s. No one with common sense takes these paranoid fantasies seriously today.

right - that's why it was funny - it was playing on a stereotype that only a moron would think was true

or a buzzkill, such as yourself

 

[aikido7]

Is it a lie to say that Jesus was being acclaimed king of the Jews by his disciples at the entrance of Jerusalem? No. (Luke 19:37-39) Is it a lie to say that Jerusalem was a Roman province at that time? No. Is it a lie to say that the Pharisees tried to save Jesus from being arrested because of that stupid acclamation? No. Was Jesus king of the Jews? No. Now, we have the reason why the disciples of Jesus were playing the stupid which caused the death of Jesus. Reason for the death of Jesus? INRI.

Don't forget though that I am not referring to the 12 but to the 70. Jesus had 70 disciples in the category of disciples and not apostles. That's what the apostles of Jesus said to Paul when this tried to join them; that he could not be even a disciple, let alone an apostle. (Acts 9:26) from the NAB translation.

The Romans put Jesus to death because they saw him as treasonous--and part of that feeling was because Jesus was crowned “king” by some of his followers.

It was later in the tradition that the Jesus people who were living side-by-side in the Roman world began to slowly slide the reason for Jesus’s death away from Rome and simply--regrettably--to “the Jews.”

Pilate was brutal and violent and because of this he was removed from his power base by the officials in the Roman empire.

This focus away from a violent Pilate can be seen in the gospels.
The idea that “Pilate washed his hands” of the matter and supposedly left the death penalty to be decided by the crowd is a fiction. His neutral behavior toward Jesus as told in the gospels makes no common sense.

 

[aikido7]

right - that's why it was funny - it was playing on a stereotype that only a moron would think was true

or a buzzkill, such as yourself

Be aware that name-calling and ridicule was the first step in eventually sending the Jews to the camps packed in railroad cars.

Again, the Jews as baby-killers was a primitive prejudice that is taken seriously only by the most rabid anti-Semites today.

 

[ok doser]

Be aware that name-calling and ridicule was the first step in eventually sending the Jews to the camps packed in railroad cars.

did you know that the nazis drank milk when they were children?

did you know that hitler drank milk when he was a child?

did you drink milk when you were a child?

i'll bet you did

 

[Ben Masada]

The Essay of Mark Twain About the Jews

1 - The Romans put Jesus to death because they saw him as treasonous--and part of that feeling was because Jesus was crowned “king” by some of his followers.

2 - It was later in the tradition that the Jesus people who were living side-by-side in the Roman world began to slowly slide the reason for Jesus’s death away from Rome and simply--regrettably--to “the Jews.”

3 - Pilate was brutal and violent and because of this he was removed from his power base by the officials in the Roman empire.

4 - This focus away from a violent Pilate can be seen in the gospels.
The idea that “Pilate washed his hands” of the matter and supposedly left the death penalty to be decided by the crowd is a fiction. His neutral behavior toward Jesus as told in the gospels makes no common sense.

1 - Hey, Aikido, I didn't know about that. I have never read in the NT that Jesus was crowned king by some of his followers! What I have is that the only crown Jesus was crowned with was the one the Romans made out of thorns.

2 - This is also new and there is no evidence anywhere neither in the NT nor anywhere else. The transfer of guilty from the Romans to the Jews was made in the high Roman echelon. Jews at that time were still in the very beginning of their ascendance in the Diaspora.

3 - Just as Josephus says about him.

4 - What could we do without some enlightened Christians like you?

 

[Bradley D]

No, I feel shame rather for your anti-Semitic accusation. You know very well that the Romans killed Jesus and not the Jews. And if you read your NT you would find out that the reason why Jesus was killed was the stupid acclamation of his own disciples that he was king of the Jews. Evidence? Try to find out the meaning of that inscription on that plate Pilate nailed on the top of his cross: INRI. (John 19;19) That's the reason why Jesus was killed. And mind you for some decency that the Pharisees tried twice to save Jesus from being arrested and brought to the cross. First from Herod in Luke 13:31 and later from Pilate in Luke 19:37-40. Enough to be ashamed, don't you think so?

As a Christian I believe our sins killed Christ!

 

[Ben Masada]

As a Christian I believe our sins killed Christ!

And as a Prophet of the Most High, Jeremiah and Ezekiel said that no one could be killed for the sins of another. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20) Now, what do you say, should I believe the word of a Christian or that of a Prophet?

 

[dialm]

Wasn't Mark Twain an atheist?

And he was a book writer.

And he knew a thing or two about who buttered his bread.

 

[dialm]

And as a Prophet of the Most High, Jeremiah and Ezekiel said that no one could be killed for the sins of another. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20) Now, what do you say, should I believe the word of a Christian or that of a Prophet?

That depends on who the Christian is. While Old Testament prophets have a type of light, it is very small. Sort of like Twain's assessment of the people he was talking about. You follow in their foot steps and it won't be long before you will be in a whole lot of Rosie.

 

[dialm]

Think about it this way

With a name like that if I followed you I would have two choices

1 kill myself
2 become a slave

No thanks

 

[Elia]

No people have disobeyed God throughout history more so than the Jews.

For the last 2,000 years, no people have rejected The Lord Jesus Christ more so than the Jews have.

Bs"d

Just like the Jews have rejected all other false prophets and idols.

See here why the Jews don't believe in the NT: http://MountZion.notlong.com

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[Elia]

do you feel shame for killing Christ?

Bs"d

Had to be done, just like all other blasphemers and false prophets..
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[Ben Masada]

Wasn't Mark Twain an atheist?

And he was a book writer.

And he knew a thing or two about who buttered his bread.

But then he was a great admirer of the Jewish People, being for that matter blessed by the Lord Who blesses those who bless Israel.