Summit Clock Experiment 2.0: Time is Absolute

TimLutz

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So how can we be sure that time is constant without a measure? There are no constants. Even atoms have their own identities.

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Oh and speed of light slowing down. Measurements over time seem to indicate that it is slowing down. There is a registered theory on that subject.

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So how can we be sure that time is constant without a measure?
We can just accept that time is a non-physical entity. Therefore, if you measure it, the measure is a representation of the distance between the events, with the distance assumed to be incapable of change.

This seems reasonable given that there are only two events and only one truth about the nature of the distance between them.

There are no constants.
If we consider two events, can the time that separates them change?

Let us say event A is the pitcher releasing the ball and event B is the batter hitting it and we measure the time between the events as 0.8 seconds. Can that time change?
 

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Oh and speed of light slowing down. Measurements over time seem to indicate that it is slowing down. There is a registered theory on that subject.

I know. :)

How would you go about measuring the decay in the speed of light?
 

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So any part of current accepted physics is supported by math. What is yours?

What? :AMR:

1=1. Do you agree?

If we consider two events, can the time that separates them change?

Let us say event A is the pitcher releasing the ball and event B is the batter hitting it and we measure the time between the events as 0.8 seconds. Can that time change?
 

TimLutz

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Supposedly does depending if you are approaching or retreating from the event in an accelerating or decelerating velocity. Pretty nuanced tho. Q, whatta the hecka doe this connect to theology? God is organized and created. all the is from nothing ( interesting formula that). And it is recorded how He had manipulated time/space and matter ( walk on water and pass thru walls. Always say that we live in a special type of echo. However our small intellect can wrap around a multidimensionality Being that resides at all points of time is pretty steep.

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Supposedly does depending if you are approaching or retreating from the event.
So if two people -- each at separate velocities -- are watching the same pitch, there will be two instances of the ball being hit?

Or do you think it is more reasonable to believe that the measuring techniques are affected by the velocities (or, more accurately, the different gravity environments)?

And do you think, rather than there being different times, that the discrepancies between measurements can be reconciled with a calculation?

Pretty nuanced tho.
Relativity is not nuanced, it is self-contradictory. A simple understanding of the universe is nuanced when you accept that there is only one instance of each event and one distance between them, but the measurement of the events and the measurement of the time between them can give varying results according to the conditions.

Q, whatta the hecka doe this connect to theology?
For one thing, the ability to rationally describe reality is a good indicator that a theological discussion might be worthwhile.
 

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TimLutz

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Ok got the mass q. So since the one on the right has greater grav attraction it should accel faster. But it also has greater inertia to overcome. Now if set 10x had a smaller partner involved it would collide first.

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Ok got the mass q. So since the one on the right has greater grav attraction it should accel faster. But it also has greater inertia to overcome. Now if set 10x had a smaller partner involved it would collide first.Posted from the TOL App!

I don't think inertia is an issue because in each case there is no gravity other than what is provided by the two masses.
 

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Durn it was a download. Jamming up my card.
Well anyway will noodle on it. But since you assert that gravity is affecting the atomic clocks and not passage of time. You do know how an atomic clock functions, right?

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Proverbs 18:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
17*The first one to plead his cause seems right,
Until his neighbor comes and examines him.

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