Study: Liberals better at thinking outside the box

Jose Fly

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Conservatives and liberals do think differently
Research shows different ways of solving everyday problems linked to political ideology


[P]eople who hold conservative versus liberal perspectives appear to differ in everyday thinking processes and problem solving, according to research from Northwestern University and the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago (RIC).

When solving short (non-political) verbal problems in an experiment, liberals were more likely than conservatives to achieve solutions with a sudden insight or "Aha!" In contrast, both groups achieved roughly an equal number of solutions through gradual, analytical processing.

IOW, both liberals and conservatives utilize the same sort of gradual, analytical process when solving problems, but liberals also use an intuitive process that conservatives don't.

"Liberals tended more than conservatives to use insight to solve verbal problems in which you have to 'think outside the box,'" Salvi said.

IOW, conservatives are more limited than liberals in their problem-solving skills.

In other news, water is still wet. :chuckle:
 

genuineoriginal

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Conservatives and liberals do think differently
Research shows different ways of solving everyday problems linked to political ideology




IOW, both liberals and conservatives utilize the same sort of gradual, analytical process when solving problems, but liberals also use an intuitive process that conservatives don't.



IOW, conservatives are more limited than liberals in their problem-solving skills.

In other news, water is still wet. :chuckle:
I see that science is proving that Liberals are much more susceptible to Doublethink than conservatives.
And Liberals are completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction in their Doublethink.

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Doublethink is the act of ordinary people simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts.[1] Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Somewhat related but almost the opposite is cognitive dissonance, where contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance — thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.
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Ktoyou

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Then it would be a disturbance in object relations. Internalizing external objects, the me-him/her complex
 

Jose Fly

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Yes, I would like to see the step-by-step process you employed to conclude that there was doublethink in the study.
 

Jose Fly

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I suppose that means you are much more conservative than you like to think you are.
:chuckle:

You either didn't read the OP, or didn't grasp what it said. Again...

"IOW, both liberals and conservatives utilize the same sort of gradual, analytical process when solving problems, but liberals also use an intuitive process that conservatives don't."

Now, what was that step-by-step process that led you to conclude there was doublethink going on in the study?
 

genuineoriginal

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You either didn't read the OP, or didn't grasp what it said. Again...

"IOW, both liberals and conservatives utilize the same sort of gradual, analytical process when solving problems, but liberals also use an intuitive process that conservatives don't."

Now, what was that step-by-step process that led you to conclude there was doublethink going on in the study?
Conservatives tend to think in a black and white fashion, where everything is either true or false.

Liberals typically believe in multiple contradictory ideas at the same time, an action that is called doublethink.

The study used Compound Remote Associate problems to test whether the process was solved with an intuitive process or was solved using a gradual, analytical process.

The practice that liberals have in believing contradictory ideas at the same time is more suited at solving Compound Remote Associate problems intuitively than black and white thinking, slanting the test towards liberals and away from conservatives.

Therefore, the only thing the study actually revealed is that liberals are much more susceptible to Doublethink than conservatives, which we already knew.
 

Jose Fly

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That's the conclusion of a scientific study.


That's the conclusion of a.....conservative blog post.

And to you, those two things are equal?

The practice that liberals have in believing contradictory ideas at the same time is more suited at solving Compound Remote Associate problems intuitively than black and white thinking, slanting the test towards liberals and away from conservatives.

Where did you get that from? Did you just make it up?
 

genuineoriginal

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That's the conclusion of a scientific study.

That's the conclusion of a.....conservative blog post.

And to you, those two things are equal?
In your mind, anything found in a "scientific" study is true and everything found in a conservative blog is false.
Are you thinking in black and white, like a conservative, now?

Where did you get that from? Did you just make it up?
Did I get ahead of you with another intuitive insight?

Okay, first you have to determine if Compound Remote Associate problems really identify insight.
The results on that is not conclusive.
Investigating Insight Using Compound Remote Associate Problems 2010 (pdf)
Is Insight Always the Same? A Protocol Analysis of Insight in Compound Remote Associate Problems 2012 (pdf)

If it is not conclusive whether CRA problem identify insight, then the conclusion of the study in the OP is unwarranted.

If it is inconclusive whether the study actually identified insight in liberals, then there may be other factors involved.

So, let's look at the actual problems used for insight:
Study in OP said:
Each problem consisted of the simultaneous presentation of three words, each of which could form a compound word or phrase with the solution word. For example: pine/crab/sauce -- the solution word is APPLE.
A pine is a type of tree or wood, a crab is a type of creature found on a seashore or a cranky person, and sauce is something that goes on food.
Three distinctly different things.
The solution is to make compound words from each of them using a single word, in this case: apple.
A pineapple is a large juicy tropical fruit, a crabapple is a small sour apple, and applesauce is a puree of stewed apples.
Again, three distinctly different things.

The type of problems used appear to be testing the ability of a person to think about three distinctly different things while ignoring the distinctive differences and thinking about how the three could be similar by adding an additional word to form compound words.

Doublethink is the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time.

Accepting that the differences of the three problem words are really similarities is practicing Doublethink.
 

kmoney

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If this is what the test consisted of:


Each problem consisted of the simultaneous presentation of three words, each of which could form a compound word or phrase with the solution word. For example: pine/crab/sauce -- the solution word is APPLE.



then I'm not sure how solving those involves thinking inside or outside of the box. :idunno:
 

Jose Fly

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In your mind, anything found in a "scientific" study is true and everything found in a conservative blog is false.

Nope, never said that at all. I just noted that you were attempting to present the two as if they were equally valid.

Okay, first you have to determine if Compound Remote Associate problems really identify insight.
The results on that is not conclusive.
Investigating Insight Using Compound Remote Associate Problems 2010 (pdf)
Is Insight Always the Same? A Protocol Analysis of Insight in Compound Remote Associate Problems 2012 (pdf)

If it is not conclusive whether CRA problem identify insight, then the conclusion of the study in the OP is unwarranted.

If it is inconclusive whether the study actually identified insight in liberals, then there may be other factors involved.

Those are good papers, and I thank you for finding them. As they indicate, CRA problems can serve as indications of both insight problem-solving as well as step-by-step problem-solving. And that's exactly what the paper in the OP did.

So, let's look at the actual problems used for insight:

A pine is a type of tree or wood, a crab is a type of creature found on a seashore or a cranky person, and sauce is something that goes on food.
Three distinctly different things.
The solution is to make compound words from each of them using a single word, in this case: apple.
A pineapple is a large juicy tropical fruit, a crabapple is a small sour apple, and applesauce is a puree of stewed apples.
Again, three distinctly different things.

The type of problems used appear to be testing the ability of a person to think about three distinctly different things while ignoring the distinctive differences and thinking about how the three could be similar by adding an additional word to form compound words.

Yep, and as the study showed there are generally two ways of solving such problems...via a step-by-step method and insight. Conservatives and liberals both used the former, but liberals also used the latter whereas conservatives didn't.

Doublethink is the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time.

Accepting that the differences of the three problem words are really similarities is practicing Doublethink.

Um......what? :confused: So everyone who solved those problems was guilty of doublethink?

You're not making any sense at all.
 

Crucible

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This just in: 'Liberals did a study to try and say that liberals are smart and conservatives are stupid.'

I'm conservative, and I find most liberals to be obnoxious idiots who are as easy to refute as political correctness is to mock.

Also
Liberals did a study to say their smart and conservatives are dumb :rolleyes:
If you repeat it three times, Obama beams down and gives you a Medal of Honor.
 

ok doser

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If this is what the test consisted of:


Each problem consisted of the simultaneous presentation of three words, each of which could form a compound word or phrase with the solution word. For example: pine/crab/sauce -- the solution word is APPLE.



then I'm not sure how solving those involves thinking inside or outside of the box. :idunno:


spose it depends on the box, eh?

 
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