If evolution were true, homos should be extinct.
Studies Prove Homosexuality Is Not Genetic
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If evolution were true, homos should be extinct.
yes, i understand that's the point you been trying to make for what, seventeen years now?
it has no more vailidity now than it had previously
those who wish to embrace sin will find ways to embrace it
Arthur Brain
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Sure it does if you're straight. I mean you might have some latent homosexual attraction that you could choose to act on but I don't.
It's as though Ellis was expecting "identical twins" to be absolutely utterly identical in every single way...which is fairly ridiculous if you think about it longer than a millisecond.
put in the right environment, you'd turn gay quickly enough
Arthur Brain
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Are you speaking from experience? Else that's as tired and unsupported an argument as ever...
Did you know also that infertility is genetically inherited?
put you in an all male environment, like prison, and you'd go gay
guaranteed
heck, you're british - that makes you half gay already :idunno:
Arthur Brain
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Er, no it isn't guaranteed at all. I figured you'd reach for that strawman and if it held any weight then all people serving long term sentences would have turned at least bi-sexual if only for the duration. They haven't. Even acknowledging that some extreme circumstances can impact on the psyche renders "choice" moot anyway.
Otherwise if you're a heterosexual person your bread is solely buttered on one side only and you could no more "choose" to act on an inclination that isn't even there than you could will yourself to become an ox.
If you think otherwise then you ain't straight, you're bi-sexual at least if you can entertain the thoughts of homosexual intimacy.
yes, you keep struggling with this concept
the default setting is heterosexuality
sin causes those who choose to engage in it the opportunity to pervert that
just as i choose not to be a murderer, i recognize that i could murder
Only if it's genetic. It's funny that the godless want it both ways.
Arthur Brain
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There's nothing to struggle with. Heterosexuality rules out intimacy with the same gender. If you can entertain the prospect then it's pointless identifying as straight because you aren't. Indulging in lies, stealing, promiscuity even doesn't turn someone gay and you can't "choose" to act on an inclination that simply isn't there.
and yet here you are again :sigh:
right - that's the normal, default position
homosexuality is a perversion of that position
can you entertain the prospect of becoming a murderer?
Arthur Brain
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Because your concept is flawed.
Well heterosexuality is certainly mine, and as such I'm exclusively attracted to the opposite sex. The prospect of any sort of intimacy, sexually, romantically or otherwise with a man repulses me. So with that being said how could I possibly "choose" to act on an inclination that isn't there and would also make me feel ill?
If someone killed my loved ones then it could be possible in theory.
good!
that means you're not perverted :thumb:
as much so (I hope) as the thought of becoming a murderer would repulse you
right? :noid:
Arthur Brain
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It also means it would be impossible for me to "choose" to entertain homosexuality. That's just simply how it is.
I find the notion of homosexuality activity with another man personally repulsive to me. I'm not going to say the same about those who are simply wired differently to myself.
Murder isn't an apt comparison at all, and yes, I find the unlawful taking of life repulsive.
I find the notion of murdering another human being personally repulsive to me :idunno:
but I can accept that if I chose to override that repulsion, I could choose to do it
Arthur Brain
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Committing an act and having an inherent sexual orientation are not the same thing, hence where the comparison falls flat.
Say a man returns home to find his wife and children brutally tortured and murdered. Would it be particularly surprising if through the anger, rage and grief stricken loss he entertained murderous thoughts? I wouldn't have said so. He'd have understandable reason for thinking such thoughts even if prior to this the man was repulsed by taking life.
Sexuality doesn't work that way as if it's inherent it simply is. You can choose to lie, steal, murder and commit any number of acts but for a heterosexual the attraction is beyond choice.
nobody has an inherent homosexual orientation
the normal default position is heterosexual
everybody is born with this
the perversion of that - that occurs through choice - is homosexual
Arthur Brain
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For you, me, most, I'd say so yes. For everyone then no, as that would mean I could "choose" to change my orientation - which as I've told you is an impossibility for me.