If you want to be feed Spiritual food, read/study the Bible and find a Bible believing, Christ centered church. If you want to be entertained, seek after a "Charismatic/Pentecostal church" and don't read the Bible.
ECT Speaking in tongues
- Thread starter andyc
- Start date
andyc
New member
No. They are media ministers that the majority prentecostals ignore.
Like I said, I put no value on your opinion. Who are you?
Nobody.
The "Movement" manifested "The Unstoppable Laughing Gig" in the 90s.
Right Divider
Body part
"Feelings" are internal; "feeling" is external.
It would figure that you can't tell the difference.
P.S. It's Esau.
TweetyBird
New member
The majority of Pentes are chasing after them > millions of them. Those billions of dollars are not just appearing out of nowhere.
Copeland or Creflo had a conference in Detroit a couple of years ago. I heard that he raised 40 million in 3 days. Keep hiding your head in the sand.
I am person who got fooled, just like you are. Now I am free.
Andy is one of those "followers" that Benny Hinn and others love to entertain, for a price.
andyc
New member
Nope.
I don't know any Pentecostal pastors who support those guys. I know you don't like it, but it's true. What's more, I am pentecostal, and I have nothing to do with them. If people want to be conned, so be it.
It would make no difference to me if he raised 10 Billion.
No, you just got fooled twice. Enjoy your powerless christianity.
I am not upset at you.
Not in the least.
That is your reading your emotionalism into my words.
Which always results in not only taking offense to having had something pointed out to one; but in the equally ignorant conclusion that the individual pointing out a thing is doing so because he is upset.
Walk by faith in the Scripture as to how to actually read into another's words; and you'll begin to free yourself of such baseless conclusions.
Again, I am not upset with you.
Neither you, nor I, are the issue.
The Lord ALONE...is.
You will know such is your truth as well, when during such moments and the temptation of their fleshly conclusions, you find yourself glorying in such infirmities, wether actual, or perceived as such by any of us.
In this, it is ever fascinating to me how many who assert they walk by faith; actually follow their fleshly mind.
Would we really have these continually embarrassing Jerry Springer like "biting and devouring one another" festivals if we all were to actually walk by the faith we assert we walk by?
I...doubt...it.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
It is each our legalism in our duplicity, that provokes all this strife not only in each of us, but toward one another.
And no, I am still not upset with you.
We...are...not...the...issue.
andyc
New member
Feeling is a natural sense that can govern the will of those not operating in faith.
Seeing, hearing, tasting, feeling, smelling, will all speak to you positively or negatively. They could say, "your prayers haven't worked", which is a lie.
Therefore it is irrelevant if the feelings are based on external touch, or internal emotion. Feelings are liars when they oppose promises in scripture.
Romans 12:8 states: "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." That verse suggests that we cannot always get along with everybody. Paul had his problems with those in the faith and so do we. We can't just ignore that fact, as well.
TweetyBird
New member
They teach the identical doctrines. You have been conned even though you don't see it.
It should bother you that a wolf in sheep's clothing is stealing from your brothers. But then again, this is all about you, isn't it?
Just once, actually.
That's why you are in delusion. It's all about YOUR power.
TweetyBird
New member
Do you not yet see that all your doctrines are about YOU?
Good posts TB.
He always says that (Eph 4:14). :blabla:
I'll bet Andy is pretty much running out of steam by now?
andyc
New member
Saying this doesn't mean anything to me. I believe it is you who are conned, as I have shown from scripture in this thread.
You do not have a case from scripture showing that the gifts of the Spirit have ended. So you can point to con men, and tell me I'm deluded till the cows come home.
I don't put any value on your opinion, because I walk in what the bible says I can have. And it's a blessing to me every day.
I can't help it if it didn't work for you, and so you want to discredit what you couldn't appreciate. Doubt and do without, that's your choice.
Why?
If people follow those who follow money, that is their decision. They have a bible.
No. Jesus said, without me you can do nothing. He also said, "you shall receive power after the Holy Spirit has come upon you". I know where the source of the power come from. But it's like a light switch, you have to put a demand on the power by switching the light on.
andyc
New member
I thought he had me on ignore?
Obviously he just can't ignore me. That's a good sign.
andyc
New member
No I don't.
Because unlike you, I see that I need gifts that go beyond my own abilities. You reject what Jesus suffered to give you, because you want it to be all about you.
andyc
New member
Let's hope he means it this time. It's not looking good so far.