Real Science Friday: CERN Might Have Broken Light's Speed Limit

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CERN Might Have Broken Light's Speed Limit

This is the show from Friday September 23rd, 2011.

SUMMARY:



* Insects, Arachnids, and the Speed of Light & Flight: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss locust wings creasing for flight along their veins, and about tarantula feet equipped with nozzles to shot out kevlar-strength silk to avoid falls, and about the European researchers who claim to have shot neutrinos 450 miles from Geneva to Sasso, Italy at a speed faster than the speed of light!

* Locust Wings are WAY More Sophisticated than Expected
: According to Creation magazine's Fall 2011 issue, the reason that designers of mini flying robots have not been able to demonstrate good aerodynamics even after imitating the size and shape of flapping insect wings is because, according to research from Oxford, insect wings deform along their vein structures to add flight control. Wow! Cool God!

* Tarantulas' Different Need, and Perfect Foot Design
: First it was kevlar-strength silk. Then it was cross-linked glue molecules to catch insects. Now it's nozzle-equipped feet. Real Science Friday has enjoyed talking about the amazing design features of spiders. Now, Creation magazine reports the latest research that shows that tarantulas have many nozzles in the bottoms of their eight feet that shoot out super-strength silk to help stabilize themselves on slippery surfaces because while other spiders are rarely injured in falls, these relatively heavy tarantulas get severely injured even from relatively minor falls.


* Researchers at CERN May Have Shot Out Neutrinos Faster than Light Speed: The European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) this week published a report about neutrinos they shot out of a particle accelerator at faster than the speed of light, from near Geneva, to a lab in Sasso, Italy 450 miles away, with an arrival time 60 nanoseconds earlier than the speed of light. Bob and Fred discuss this possibility, and talk about the star-light and time problem for Big Bang atheists and about a biblical answer for the Christian's star light and time question.

* Have You Seen This GREAT Animation of a Few Features Inside a Living Cell:



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Today’s Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in our online store? Check out especially Walt Brown’s In the Beginning and Bob’s interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You’ll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez’ Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media’s Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart’s Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's creation/evolution debate that hits on Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott (see description below); and the superb kids' radio program Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins!

Eugenie Flubs Genetics Prediction, Bob Hits the Bull's-Eye: Eugenie Scott offered the "evidence" for evolution of Junk DNA. This scientist, from her Darwinist worldview, made a philosophical argument that a Creator would not fill our DNA with mostly junk. (Unlike the relatively few gene segments that code for the 20,000 proteins in the human body, the widespread evolutionary claim of the 1990s was that the rest of the genome had no function and so was called Junk DNA.) Bob, the Christian fundamentalist, answered from his biblical worldview, that our knowledge of genetics was in its infancy, and that it was too early to make the determination that all those non-coding segments of DNA had no function. The next decade of explosive genetic discoveries overwhelmingly validated this creationist perspective, so much so that aside from coding for 20,000 proteins, it is estimated that the remainder of the genome has approximately one million other functional regulatory segments of DNA. So much for junk. Fulfilled predictions, as the world saw with Einstein, go toward scientific credibility. However, Dr. Scott strongly rejected this creationist prediction making an extraordinary claim, which Bob immediately offered her to retract, that scientists currently knew everything they would ever need to know about genetics to conclusively state that all those regions were useless junk. Bob would love a rematch. But Eugenie Scott, (Ph.D. in Physical Anthropology, leading anti-creationist, and director of the National Center for Science Education), who had just debated evolution on a nationwide PBS television program, ended this one-hour program with Bob stating, "Well, I don’t debate."
 

Stripe

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More, "Boy this is hard to understand, must be a goddidit"
Not really.

It's more of a challenge that evolutionists can never respond to. If evolution did this - how did it do so?

And let's see some evidence this time. :thumb:
 

Jukia

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Not really, but I got a kick out of him always signing off with "learn some science!"

Thanks, too bad very few fundys here have bothered to do that.

And in terms of my first post in this thread, what is wrong with it? Just a comment on much of the "scientific reporting" from Pastor Bob and his buddies. "We don't have an answer so lets follow the Bible." Very scientific.
 

Ted L Glines

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Well, apparently ole rocky racer Neutrino did break that speed law. Celestial State Police gave chase but couldn't catch Neut ...
YEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we humans are a teensy bit presumptuous in our obesession with defining the unknowable limits, as well as putting agenda-framed words into the "mouth" of the unknowable God. We humans have achieved one proof, though: our pride is only exceeded by our ignorance.
 

Jukia

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Well, apparently ole rocky racer Neutrino did break that speed law. Celestial State Police gave chase but couldn't catch Neut ...
YEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we humans are a teensy bit presumptuous in our obesession with defining the unknowable limits, as well as putting agenda-framed words into the "mouth" of the unknowable God. We humans have achieved one proof, though: our pride is only exceeded by our ignorance.

God is "unknowable"? Then what is the point of reading the Bible?
 

fool

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Well, apparently ole rocky racer Neutrino did break that speed law. Celestial State Police gave chase but couldn't catch Neut ...
YEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we humans are a teensy bit presumptuous in our obesession with defining the unknowable limits, as well as putting agenda-framed words into the "mouth" of the unknowable God. We humans have achieved one proof, though: our pride is only exceeded by our ignorance.
So;
What does this do to our calcs?
 

Stripe

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Thanks, too bad very few fundys here have bothered to do that.
Strange. For myself - I've been attending seismology and geophysics courses at university, doing data entry for a repeating earthquakes search, written numerous pieces on the physical properties of the Earth and researched a couple of fairly significant mathematical models.

What have you done recently other than post useless one liners?

And in terms of my first post in this thread, what is wrong with it?
It was, in a word, useless.

Just a comment on much of the "scientific reporting" from Pastor Bob and his buddies. "We don't have an answer so lets follow the Bible." Very scientific.
Yet we all know you've done nothing to verify the validity of your claim.

God is "unknowable"? Then what is the point of reading the Bible?
Just another example of Jukia's useless nature on TOL. Why not engage on the topic instead of promoting the rabbit trails?

ANSWER: You are solely interested in diverting attention away from rational, scientific discussion. :loser:
 
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