One of the best things about Ted Cruz

[lighthouse99]

How would "lighthouse99" police and enforce those laws that he envisions would ban abortion without "BIG GOVERNMENT?"

assuming I even get this, conservatives are realistic enough to realize that all abortions will never be stopped. But that has nothing to do with TRYING to end something that is immoral, ghastly, uncivilized, barbarian (need I go on?)

 

[jgarden]

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/content/tra...s-policies/citizenship-child-born-abroad.html

There's no question that Cruz qualifies as a natural born US citizen and Trump knows it!

Trump also knows that conservatives are notorious for not basing their opinions on the facts and that all he needs do is to plant the seeds of doubt!

 

[jgarden]

assuming I even get this, conservatives are realistic enough to realize that all abortions will never be stopped. But that has nothing to do with TRYING to end something that is immoral, ghastly, uncivilized, barbarian (need I go on?)

The courts and the jails would be filled with poor, young women - wealthier American families could afford to send their daughters to other jurisdictions for abortions!

 

[genuineoriginal]

There's no question that Cruz qualifies as a natural born US citizen and Trump knows it!

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Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him.
John Bingham, 1862
Congressional Globe 39.1 (1866) p. 1291. Stated again during a House debate in 1872; cf. Congressional Globe 42.2 (1872), p. 2791
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Because Cruz has a parent (father) that owed allegiance to a foreign sovereignty at the time of his birth, Cruz is not a natural-born citizen.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Because Cruz has a parent (father) that owed allegiance to a foreign sovereignty at the time of his birth, Cruz is not a natural-born citizen.

Top Bush, Obama lawyers say Cruz is eligible for presidency March 22, 2015 As Sen. Ted Cruz edges closer to a formal campaign for president, a bipartisan pair of top lawyers is arguing in the Harvard Law Review that the fact he was born in Canada should not hold him back. “Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” they argued. The commentary was co-written by Paul Clement, solicitor general during George W. Bush’s second term, and Neal Katyal, a former acting solicitor general in the Obama administration. During the recount saga of the 2000 election, Katyal was co-counsel to Bush’s opponent, Al Gore. Their piece, titled “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen,’” notes that the Constitution is clear that a naturalized citizen cannot be president. But Cruz wasn’t naturalized and didn’t have to be to attain U.S. citizenship, thanks to the fact that his mother, Eleanor, is American by birth. They deride as “spurious” the idea that a “U.S. citizen at birth is somehow not constitutionally eligible to serve as president simply because he was delivered at a hospital abroad.” Cruz’s parents were working in the Canadian oil patch when he was born in 1970 in Calgary. His father, Rafael Cruz, was a Cuban citizen at the time, though he also had been a U.S. resident. Clement and Katyal maintain that the father’s status alone would have made Ted Cruz a natural-born U.S. citizen, a position not generally shared by legal scholars who have weighed in on Cruz’s eligibility. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...wyers-say-cruz-is-eligible-for-presidency.ece

 

[jgarden]

Acquisition of citizenship

Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Birth abroad to one United States citizen

..... Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law is applicable as it existed at the time of the individual's birth.

For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:

1. The person's parents were married at the time of birth
2. One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born
3. The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth;
4. A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law

1. Ted Cruz's parents, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz and Eleanor Elizabeth (Darragh) Wilson were married.

2. His mother, Eleanor Elizabeth (Darragh) Wilson, was born in Wilmington, Delaware.

3. Eleanor had lived in the US for more than 10 years before going to Canada.

4. Five of those 10 years were after her 14th birthday - she earned an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Rice University in the 1950's.

Ted Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, during his parents 8 year stay in Canada.

Rafael Cruz was born in Cuba and obtained political asylum in the United States. After his four-year student visa expired, he became a Canadian citizen while working in Canada. He later became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2005.

The Cruz family moved to Texas in 1974.

"Genuineoriginal" can "... deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him," but the Congress would care to differ.

The term “natural born citizen” refers to a citizen, who from birth, was not required to go through naturalization proceedings.

The US Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are:

1. British common law - during the 1700's, children born outside of the British Empire to subjects of the Crown were subjects themselves and explicitly used “natural born” to encompass such children.

2. the First Congress - 3 years after the drafting of the Constitution, the 1st Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born citizens.”

 

[genuineoriginal]

The term “natural born citizen” refers to a citizen, who from birth, was not required to go through naturalization proceedings.

Not quite.
It refers to a person who is a citizen born to parents who are both citizens.

The US Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are:

1. British common law - during the 1700's, children born outside of the British Empire to subjects of the Crown were subjects themselves and explicitly used “natural born” to encompass such children.

2. the First Congress - 3 years after the drafting of the Constitution, the 1st Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born citizens.”

Yes, and in both cases the use of "natural born" refers to someone born abroad where both parents were citizens at the time of birth.

A person born with dual citizenship is not, and never can be, a "natural born" citizen because he is born to a foreigner.

Both Obama and Cruz have failed to meet the requirement of "natural born" citizen because of this.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Both Obama and Cruz have failed to meet the requirement of "natural born" citizen ...

Harvard Law Review

On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”

Commentary by Neal Katyal & Paul Clement

No doubt informed by this longstanding tradition, just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, the First Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born Citizens.” The Naturalization Act of 1790 provided that “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States . . .
http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

Rafael Cruz was a resident of the United States prior to taking a job in Canada.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Harvard Law Review

On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”

Commentary by Neal Katyal & Paul Clement

No doubt informed by this longstanding tradition, just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, the First Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born Citizens.” The Naturalization Act of 1790 provided that “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States . . .
http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

Rafael Cruz was a resident of the United States prior to taking a job in Canada.

Without a Constitutional Amendment to change or define "natural born", the naturalization acts of Congress cannot change the definition used by the writers.

Here is the definition of the time:

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William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62

1765

all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance [to country], and the mother had passed the seas by her husband's consent, might inherit as if born in [country]:.
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[aCultureWarrior]

Without a Constitutional Amendment to change or define "natural born", the naturalization acts of Congress cannot change the definition used by the writers.

Here is the definition of the time:

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William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62

1765

all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance [to country], and the mother had passed the seas by her husband's consent, might inherit as if born in [country]:.
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Thank you for showing the basis for the naturalization act. However, the United States wasn't a country until 1776 and the Naturalization Act of 1790 (as shown in Neal Katyal & Paul Clement's Harvard Law Review article) was (and still is, with updates since then) the law of the land.

"The pre-Revolution British statutes sometimes focused on paternity such that only children of citizen fathers were granted citizenship at birth.

The Naturalization Act of 1790 expanded the class of citizens at birth to include children born abroad of citizen mothers as long as the father had at least been resident in the United States at some point "

On a related note: Ted Cruz has a tad bit of knowledge under his belt when it comes to the Constitution. Do you really think that he'd waste time and energy to run for President if there were any doubt in this mind to his eligibility?

Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 - May 2008.

Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice.

Cruz has authored 80+ SCOTUS briefs and presented 40+ oral arguments before The Court

Cruz served as a law clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms.

Cruz presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

In addition to his victory in Heller, Cruz has successfully defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds, the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools and the majority of the 2003 Texas redistricting plan. Cruz also successfully defended, in Medellin v. Texas, the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States.

Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2013/03/ever-take-look-at-ted-cruzs-resume.html

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Both Obama and Cruz have failed to meet the requirement of "natural born" citizen because of this.

Regarding Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility (I remember hearing about this several years ago) :

Obama Not A Citizen Thanks To His Own Mother

2-29-12

...But new questions about the status of BHO’s teen age mother Stanley Ann Dunham are surfacing as analysis at another web site is revealing a Congressional rule change for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986 puts in serious doubt Stanley Ann Dunham’s ability to confer citizenship status on her son.

Since Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born in 1961, this newly discovered law involves Dunham’s age because she was only 18 at time of delivery! The law says:

”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.” Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status according to blog discovery. One commenter said, “She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. as a Natural Born Citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements! Backing this statement up, another commenter reiterates:” The law specifically outlines the requirements for a CITIZEN mother to confer citizenship to her baby. Ann Dunham was NOT old enough-case closed!”
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-not-a-citizen-thanks-to-his-own-mother/

 

[genuineoriginal]

On a related note: Ted Cruz has a tad bit of knowledge under his belt when it comes to the Constitution. Do you really think that he'd waste time and energy to run for President if there were any doubt in this mind to his eligibility?

Obama ran for presidency knowing he was ineligible, why would you believe Cruz is any different?

The real question is why are these people being allowed to run for president, when their supporters know that they have mixed loyalties due to their dual citizenship?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
On a related note: Ted Cruz has a tad bit of knowledge under his belt when it comes to the Constitution. Do you really think that he'd waste time and energy to run for President if there were any doubt in this mind to his eligibility?

Obama ran for presidency knowing he was ineligible, why would you believe Cruz is any different?

If you can't see that there's world of difference between the psychopath that currently holds America hostage and a Christian Senator from Texas who is also a constitutional scholar...

The real question is why are these people being allowed to run for president, when their supporters know that they have mixed loyalties due to their dual citizenship?

Ted Cruz is not one of "these people". As shown, he is eligible to run for the office of President of the United States. Unlike B. Hussein Obama, he loves America and will do everything humanly possibly (within the confines of the Constitution) to make it a great nation once again.

 

[genuineoriginal]

If you can't see that there's world of difference between the psychopath that currently holds America hostage and a Christian Senator from Texas who is also a constitutional scholar...

Ted Cruz is not one of "these people". As shown, he is eligible to run for the office of President of the United States. Unlike B. Hussein Obama, he loves America and will do everything humanly possibly (within the confines of the Constitution) to make it a great nation once again.

It may or may not be true that there is a world of difference between Obama and Cruz, however, the part that matters is whether either of them is eligible under the guidelines put into the Constitution, and neither is eligible since each was born with dual citizenship which entails dual loyalties.

Ted Cruz may or may not be the best candidate since George Washington but that still does not make him eligible.

If you think Cruz is the best Presidential candidate of the current batch, then find someone like him who is eligible to replace him.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
If you can't see that there's world of difference between the psychopath that currently holds America hostage and a Christian Senator from Texas who is also a constitutional scholar...

Ted Cruz is not one of "these people". As shown, he is eligible to run for the office of President of the United States. Unlike B. Hussein Obama, he loves America and will do everything humanly possibly (within the confines of the Constitution) to make it a great nation once again

It may or may not be true that there is a world of difference between Obama and Cruz,

Their political/moral ideology and voting records prove that there is.

however, the part that matters is whether either of them is eligible under the guidelines put into the Constitution, and neither is eligible since each was born with dual citizenship which entails dual loyalties.

Ted Cruz may or may not be the best candidate since George Washington but that still does not make him eligible.

If you think Cruz is the best Presidential candidate of the current batch, then find someone like him who is eligible to replace him.

As I've shown, Constitutional experts disagree with you.

I gather you're backing the tv celebrity/circus side show act that started this supposed controversy?

 

[lighthouse99]

one REALLY good thing about Cruz:


the media (even Fox, probably) hates him



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[lighthouse99]

I hope Ted Cruz remembers Jesus's words: "You will be hated by all"

I hope Ted Cruz remembers Jesus's words: "You will be hated by all"

yeh, that's how we can tell Cruz is the one to vote for: he is, as Jesus predicted his people would be, "hated by all" because of his faith in Jesus (which of course is not just BELIEF in the head, but actions 2) .

you can tell Fox doesn't really like him because he is hardly ever on, except right after debates or when his numbers go up some.

and we know who IS on Fox and CNN and etc, and on 10 times more than the others?

everyone is an idiot these days



:luigi:

 

[genuineoriginal]

As I've shown, Constitutional experts disagree with you.

Many self-proclaimed experts are wrong when they disagree with me.
I am getting used to it.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
As I've shown, Constitutional experts disagree with you.

Many self-proclaimed experts are wrong when they disagree with me.
I am getting used to it.

I was hoping that good people will set aside their differences (and you're a good man g.o.) and come together to elect a President (and candidates in their respective states) that really will change the status quo in America.

Can I count on you to support Ted Cruz?

 

[genuineoriginal]

I was hoping that good people will set aside their differences (and you're a good man g.o.) and come together to elect a President (and candidates in their respective states) that really will change the status quo in America.

Can I count on you to support Ted Cruz?

I can't compromise my principles enough to vote for a candidate that is not eligible, even if he is the best one in the pack.

The Republican Party is responsible for 50% of what is wrong with our country these days.
The Democrat Party is responsible for the remaining 50%.

Can I count on you to help abolish the two-headed beast that is destroying our country and vote independent?