Obama Had the Fox Guarding the Henhouse--Brilliant!

[Jerry Shugart]

Obama Had the Fox Guarding the Henhouse--Brilliant!

"Russia would assume control Syrian chemical weapons then move the weapons out of Syria and destroy them. That deal didn’t alter the bottom line to the red line: Assad committed a war crime forbidden by an American president, and did so with impunity.

Syrians have suffered scores of chemical attacks since 2013, many involving chlorine. In March 2017, two attacks occurred where Assad’s forces allegedly used sarin.

Obama’s reliance on the Kremlin to control and remove chemical weapons utterly failed. In April, I participated in a State Department media background briefing (conducted by phone). The briefing senior official harshly criticized Russia and Iran. “Russia and Iran are the self-proclaimed guarantors for the Syrian regime to adhere to a (negotiated) cease-fire...” Though Russia says it had nothing to do with the Idlib bombing, “that’s not the issue. The issue is an apparent inability or unwillingness to hold the (Assad) regime to its own commitments and to account.” In light of the chemical attack, Russia and Iran “will have a lot to answer for.”

They do indeed. Demanding Russia and Iran answer for facilitating a major war crime by their Syrian client is not drawing a red line. But Bashar al-Assad knows that the Trump Administration is making it clear its Syrian chemical weapons policy no longer relies on Russia. Assad will conclude a punitive strike on his regime is now a possibility."​

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/04/05/obamas-red-line-horror/100074274/​

That's the Collusion Which We Should Have Been Worrying About!

 

[rexlunae]

Hey, glad to see there's at least one conservative who sees Russia as a villain. But you say that as if Obama could have just picked some other option.

Syria agreed to the deal because Assad trusts Russia. We agreed because there was a chance it could stop the chemical attacks. And the Russians weren't going to help us get access to their allies' weapons. How exactly do you think we should have gotten a better deal that would actually have been accepted by the parties?

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Syria agreed to the deal because Assad trusts Russia. We agreed because there was a chance it could stop the chemical attacks. And the Russians weren't going to help us get access to their allies' weapons. How exactly do you think we should have gotten a better deal that would actually have been accepted by the parties?

Obama agreed because he was looking for an excuse for why he drew a red line and then just walked away from it.

From the start of the agreement no one realistically believed that all of the poisonous gas would be turned over the Russians and everyone with a lick of sense understood that the agreement was noting but a face-saving farce thought up by Omama and Kerry.

 

[rexlunae]

Obama agreed because he was looking for an excuse for why he drew a red line and then just walked away from it.

From the start of the agreement no one realistically believed that all of the poisonous gas would be turned over the Russians and everyone with a lick of sense understood that the agreement was noting but a face-saving farce thought up by Omama and Kerry.

Look, since you seem to think you could have done better, what do you think he should have done? Have you forgotten the circumstances when the deal was made? Obama had drawn the line in the sand, and Congress had decided not to back him up. David Cameron has attempted to get his parliament to authorize the UK to take action, and they voted him down. There was no deal on the table. The Syrians weren't going to give up their chemical weapons just because we wanted them to, because we had very little leverage with them because they had the support of Russia. Russia approached us, and suggested this deal as a win-win. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickun...s-moves-to-steal-obamas-thunder/#40f9488f1d3f

Now you can fault Obama for his weakness. But the reality is that Republicans and some Democrats back home failed to give him the tools he needed to enforce his red line. Our allies weren't there with us. This was the deal on the table, and it might even have saves some lives. So I'd like to know what you would have done.

 

[intojoy]

Look, since you seem to think you could have done better, what do you think he should have done? Have you forgotten the circumstances when the deal was made? Obama had drawn the line in the sand, and Congress had decided not to back him up. David Cameron has attempted to get his parliament to authorize the UK to take action, and they voted him down. There was no deal on the table. The Syrians weren't going to give up their chemical weapons just because we wanted them to, because we had very little leverage with them because they had the support of Russia. Russia approached us, and suggested this deal as a win-win. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickun...s-moves-to-steal-obamas-thunder/#40f9488f1d3f

Now you can fault Obama for his weakness. But the reality is that Republicans and some Democrats back home failed to give him the tools he needed to enforce his red line. Our allies weren't there with us. This was the deal on the table, and it might even have saves some lives. So I'd like to know what you would have done.

Obama is Muslim dude. Come on!!


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[Jerry Shugart]

Look, since you seem to think you could have done better, what do you think he should have done?

He never should have drawn a red line to begin with unless he was going to follow through on his threat!

Of course since all he ever thought about was politics he never understood how things work in the real world.

 

[shagster01]

Congress wouldn't let him.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Congress wouldn't let him.

I wonder why Obama didn't think of that before he made his remarks concerning a red line.

Don't you?

 

[ok doser]

trump dint bother asking congress :idunno:

 

[Jerry Shugart]

trump dint bother asking congress.

Neither did Bill Clinton during his 1999 bombing campaign in Kosovo.

When she was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in March 2011 that the administration did not need congressional authorization for its military intervention in Libya.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.