Norway Is the World’s Happiest Country

The Berean

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It's culture....not socialism.

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Bingo. The Scandinavian countries have basically created "gated communities" on a national scale with soccer moms, family picnics, and Club Med style prisons. It works for them. But those countries as tiny. Their system would not likely work for large nations.

People go on and on about how much better the prison system is in the Scandinavian countries. But I asked the following question. Let's take 5,000 prisoners from California prisons and place them in, say, Finnish prisons. Now, these 5,000 prisoners include members of the Mexican Mafia, La Nuestra Familia, The Aryan Brotherhood, the Black Guerrilla Gang, etc. How successful would the Finnish prison system be at "reabilitating" these gang members? They would utterly fail IMO.
 
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Bingo. The Scandinavian countries have basically created "gated communities" on a national scale with soccer moms, family picnics, and Club Med style prisons. It works for them. But those countries as tiny. Their system would not likely work for large nations.

People go on and on about how much better the prison system is in the Scandinavian countries. But I asked the following question. Let's take 5,000 prisoners from California prisons and place them in, say, Finnish prisons. Now, these 5,000 prisoners include members of the Mexican Mafia, La Nuestra Familia, The Aryan Brotherhood, the Black Guerrilla Gang, etc. How successful would the Finnish prison system be at "reabilitating" these gang members. They would utterly fail IMO.

Of course it would fail...you just detailed why.
 

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It pays for it. But it's not socialism that created the wealth to begin with. The original wealth is what created the culture.

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Right. Rather what non-economic influence does socialism play on the current culture.
Re. Values, principles, politics...etc.

Capitalism has extreme influence upon US culture....why are they happier at the core level moreso than us?
 

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6) Norway. There’s a strong correlation between the happiest countries in the world and the least religious countries in the world, and along with Sweden and Denmark, Norway rates at the top of both lists.



:thumb:
 

ok doser

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according to wiki:


Religion in Norway is mostly Evangelical Lutheran Christianity, with 72.9% of the population officially belonging to the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway in 2015. The Catholic Church is the next largest Christian church at 2.4%. The officially unaffiliated make up 13.0% of the population.




pretty sure lutherans are some kind of Christian :idunno:
 

jeffblue101

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for all that happiness they still have high suicide rates.
 

annabenedetti

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for all that happiness they still have high suicide rates.

Their rate is significantly lower than ours. So they're happier than we are, and they have a lower suicide rate than we do. They have better access to health care and their far more generous parental maternity leave gives Norwegian babies much longer bonding time than we allow for U.S. babies.
 

Ktoyou

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But it's interesting that the U.S. as a whole only ranks 14th., I really thought it would be higher than that.

I don't see why? sure, we have the biggest economy, the biggest weapons and the best prisons. We have the most super wealthy people, but there are few wealthy people in the US.

I think the USA is more a mixture of the UK, Russia, Brazil and Hollywood.
 

ok doser

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I do think we have the highest, or close to the highest incarceration rate.

nobody's got a black population like ours :idunno:



Approximately 12–13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up 35% of jail inmates, and 37% of prison inmates of the 2.2 million male inmates as of 2014 (U.S. Department of Justice, 2014).

 

annabenedetti

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nobody's got a black population like ours :idunno:

Nobody? In population, or in history?


Approximately 12–13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up 35% of jail inmates, and 37% of prison inmates of the 2.2 million male inmates as of 2014 (U.S. Department of Justice, 2014).

Their rate of conviction is higher, their length of sentence is higher, and their encounters with police are disproportionate to the white population.
 
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