MUST WE CONFESS EVERY SIN TO BE FORGIVEN?

[meshak]

you should be willing to answer the same questions over and over
-if
-you are proud of your answers
-I can only assume
-many are not

I have seen you hit and run many times.

 

[Spockrates]

I am also a big fan of socrates
-but
-the first time I mentioned his name
-I was told that he is still burning in hell
-how would you deal with that?

Maybe ask a simple question like, "Please tell me: Why do you believe that?" That is, show by example that his method was good. I mean, who is more willing to accept the truth someone tries to give them? One who wants to understand what they believe and why they believe and asks questions? Or one who has already made up their mind that what they believe is untrue and wants to prove them wrong?

That's the beauty of our modern world. The revival of real dialog is probable, if only people are willing to consider what the other has to say instead of winning some kind of debate.

"For the partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions. And the difference between him and me at the present moment is only this — that whereas he seeks to convince his hearers that what he says is true, I am rather seeking to convince myself!"
- Socrates (Phaedo)

 

[Spockrates]

In Jesus' time Jesus' teachings were very new to all of them. and He went place to place. He met all kinds of people, yet I am sure there are many new people asking the same kind of questions. Jesus of course interacted with them.

It is not the same here.

Most here already made up their mind of their faith. Many questions are not to trying to understand them. It is to attack them by finding the loopholes of their enemy.

I have one poster just PMed me to do the same thing.

Yes. But I wasn't talking about the new people. I was talking about his closest friends, who listened to him teach every day. Why do you think he had to keep repeating himself to them?

 

[chrysostom]

Maybe ask a simple question like, "Please tell me: Why do you believe that?"

welcome to tol
-happy to see you here
-I will follow your posts

 

[meshak]

And Chris, you are one of mainstreamers too.

You won't get the same kind of treatment like I do.

I have to be careful so I wont get infraction by taking their bait.

I have to defend myself to stay here, ignoring pesky posters is one of them.

I am no way like Jesus.

 

[chrysostom]

And Chris, you are one of mainstreamers too.

you really know how to hurt a guy
-we agree on most things
-it is easy to list those where we disagree
-Jesus is God
-We must be involved with politics

 

[meshak]

Yes. But I wasn't talking about the new people. I was talking about his closest friends, who listened to him teach every day. Why do you think he had to keep repeating himself to them?

Because He knew they just did not understand and they were not doing that to make Him angry.

they were all sincere questions that they did not understand.

and remember, those closest ones abandoned their lives to follow Him.

And most of us already confessing to know Jesus.

Fighting and arguing about the faith is not Jesus' way.

His followers are supposed to evangelize to non-believers, not attacking those who dont agree with your man-made doctrine is not Jesus' way.

 

[meshak]

you really know how to hurt a guy
-we agree on most things
-it is easy to list those where we disagree
-Jesus is God
-We must be involved with politics

You see, this is one of big difference especially Christians involved in the politics.

I have already explained that Jesus said His followers are not of the world and you continually disregard His word.

 

[meshak]

Spocrates,

I have a question for you.

It seems that you are not a Christian yet.

Are you interested in becoming Jesus' follower?

 

[chrysostom]

You see, this is one of big difference especially Christians involved in the politics.

I have already explained that Jesus said His followers are not of the world and you continually disregard His word.

Jesus said

Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's

 

[meshak]

Ok, I just looked at your profile saying you are a Christian.

So I take back that question.

Why so many questions to the Christians?

 

[chrysostom]

Spocrates,

I have a question for you.

It seems that you are not a Christian yet.

did you check his profile?
-he is a christian

 

[meshak]

Jesus said

Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's

How do you understand that?

 

[chrysostom]

Why so many questions to the Christians?

some don't believe Jesus is God
-and
-some don't believe in politics
-and
-you have to wonder why
-that is why we ask questions

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

if you haven't already noticed
-I talk to myself
-a lot
-for good reasons
-having a dialogue around here is very difficult
-due to
-lack of thinking
-inability to answer questions
-over reliance on just quoting the bible

Could the real reason be, posters really don't desire to converse with you? Think about it?

 

[Spockrates]

welcome to tol
-happy to see you here
-I will follow your posts

Glad to be here.

Glad to have met you.

Glad that when I grow tired and leave for some long while, you will likely be here when I return.

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[Grosnick Marowbe]

What line does someone have to crossed to be ignored? Just asking so I don't cross it. [emoji4]

Ask her a question she doesn't want to answer, that will do it. In fact, any question will make her place you on ignore. She doesn't like answering questions because she doesn't have any answers.

 

[meshak]

some don't believe Jesus is God
-and
-some don't believe in politics
-and
-you have to wonder why
-that is why we ask questions

And you know why, you are not a newbie, and most questioners are not newbies.

And I have already answered them tons of times.

 

[chrysostom]

How do you understand that?

caesar is the government
-and
-we must participate in it
-we must attempt to control it with our vote and speech

 

[chrysostom]

And you know why, you are not a newbie, and most questioners are not newbies.

And I have already answered them tons of times.

answer them again