Free-Agent Smith said:
This is why you are wrong. You don't care.
that's irrational.
Free-Agent Smith said:
Murderers think about murder then commit murder. The same with rapists, childmolesters and so on. Obviously you don't understand that.
Some do, and some don't. In my town there was a brutal rape and murder just a few days ago. A man and a women who knew each other just as acquaintances left a bar together late wedensday night. Friday morning she was found raped, beaten, and stabbed to death behind a trucking company warehouse.
We don't know exactly what happened, as we often never do, but the odds are good it happened something like this: both parties were drunk. The woman needed a ride home, and knew the man from around the bar, so she accepted a ride home from him. He, being a drunken idiot, immediately decided this meant that she wanted to have sex with him. So when they got in the car, he put the "moves" on her, which she rudely rejected. This made the man angry, and because he was drunk, before he knew what he was doing he had hit her a few times and was forcing himself on her. She of course fought back all the harder which in turn made him more angry and more violent. The situation soon became an all out violent rape, and he suddenly realized that he'd have to kill her because she knew him and could identify him as a rapist. So he stabbed her to death and dumped her body.
He didn't intend to rape and kill anyone that night. Not even when they left the bar together. And he sure wasn't thinking about capitol punishment. All he was thinking about was getting what he wanted from her, and when it turned violent, all he was thinking about was not getting caught. What happened would have happened exactly as it did regardless of capitol punishment, because murderers are morons, and are usually crazy, drunk, high, or all three when they commit their crimes. They aren't thinking rationally. And they aren't thinking about capitol punishment or the ten commandments. All they're thinking about is getting what they want, and not getting caught.
Here's a scenario I saw happen in Chicago many, many times when I was living there, and it happened near here just a few months ago. An olderly man or woman hires the young man who lives next door (or down the street, or from somewhere near by, because they "know" him) to come move a piece of heavy furniture (or some similar task). What they don't know is that the nice young man from across the street is a junkie, and will do almost anything to get hold of some crack cocaine.
So Junkie-boy comes by the old lady's house and moves the heavy object, or whatever task it is, and the old lady gives him $20. Great! Junkie-boy is happy, and so is the old lady. So Junkie-boy runs down the street and buys himself some crack, and smokes it up right away. Now he's nice and high, and feeling invincible, but he's already looking for his next score. So he decides to go back to the old lady's house and rob her because when she gave him the $20 he saw that she had a couple more in her purse. So he goes back and knocks on her door, and unfortunately she opens it because she sees that it's him. Junkie-boy is trying to distract her somehow so he can steal the money from her purse when she's not looking but his "plan" isn't working so in fear and frustration he decided to strong-arm her. Junkie-boy starts hitting her and screaming at her so she'll give him whatever money she has, and suddenly it occurs to him that she knows she's being robbed and will identify him to the police. So he grabs a knife from the kitchen and kills her.
He didn't go to her house with the intent of killing her, he was only going to rob her. But once the plan broke and the violence started, he realized that she would call the police. So that's when he decided he had to kill - to keep from being caught.
This is how it is with most murders. Most murderers know their victims, and more importantly, most victims know their murderers. They start out intending only to rob, or rape, or "scare" or otherwise punish or intimidate them, but when the violence starts, they suddenly realize that they're committing a real crime, and that their victims can identify them. So they kill them to keep from being caught. Or sometimes, they kill them accidentally when the violence goes to far too fast.
Very few murderers sit around plotting and planning out their murder. Some do, but not many. And even those that do are still not thinking about capitol punishment. They're thinking that they're more clever than the police, and that they'll get away with their crime. The plotters and planners always think they're smarter than everyone else. And that they'll be able to get away with murder.
Capitol punishment really doesn't enter into the thinking of murderers hardly ever.
Free-Agent Smith said:
You seem to ignore the idea that many are repeat offenders.
Actually, no they aren't. Very few people who commit murder ever do it again.
Free-Agent Smith said:
Our country has been lenient on using the death penalty for about 30 - 40 years and it shows. Almost all of the articles that I post on here are about people who have been previously convicted and released back into society. They commit the same crime or one that is worse than their original crime. Obviously the parole system doesn't work and neither does the idea of "good behavior".
You seek out these stories and post them so that you can create the impression that this is a common scenario. But it's not.
Free-Agent Smith said:
My opinion isn't an emotional response, apparently you can't see that.
Well, it's not based on logic, or on the facts. What else am I to think? You just keep repeating the inaccurate conclusion that capitol punishment deters those who intend to commit murder. But it doesn't. And without that "justification", you have nothing to recommend capitol punishment but irrational emotionalism.
