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From http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2006433&posted=1#post2006433

yankeedoodled said:
It is just shocking that Ann Coulter did not support a candidate that is pure as the driven snow…
Straw man diversion. Hey YD, we hope for better opposition here on TOL. Please think harder before posting a disagreement. That way, you’re posts will be more interesting, and possibly even, helpful! Exposing and opposing those who fund the murder of children is a far cry from demanding perfection. I hate to think of what complaints you would allow your wife if you only beat her on the weekends.

yankeedoodled said:
totally without blemish.
That same diversionary word play could be used to defend any murderer, regardless of the magnitude of his crimes.

yankeedoodled said:
Show me you are utterly without error.
Is that really your standard for leveling criticism? (Or are you just being disingenuous?) Let’s test:
1) Romney funds murdering children: YD – not worthy of criticism
2) Coulter defends Romney’s murder of kids: YD – not worthy of criticism
3) ARTL makes a video: YD – worthy of criticism, especially from me, YankeeDoodled!

Hey YD, by you criticizing others for criticizing Ann, can’t you see the hypocrisy? (Please don’t have a knee-jerk defense mechanism, but think for a moment, and then try allowing your fingers to click Reply and posting this: “Good points TOL; thanks for hanging in there; I’ll now reconsider your claim of Ann’s wrongdoing.” Just try that YD; you’ll see. Humility is good for the soul!)

yankeedoodled said:
The point is the hypocrisy of holding someone to standards of flawlessness... while giving the iniquity crowd a blank check
If I get your meaning, you are trying to divert attention from a Republican who is a radically and aggressively pro-homosexual child killer by getting us to fear the Obama bogeyman. What’s worse, YD, a run-of-the-mill child killer, or a child-killer who dresses up as a pro-life, pro-family, conservative Christian?

yankeedoodled said:
Ann's error does not discredit her entirely
Glad to see that you finally acknowledged, YD, that Coulter erred. The video does not say that she is entirely discredited. Her defense of Joe McCarthy still stands. (My 2003 interview of Ann about her defense of McCarthy starts with an audio clip of a sermon I delivered in my first year in the pulpit, in 2000, about which Coulter said to me: “I can’t believe that sermon of yours by the way [Welcome to Eternity]. Boy, were you ahead of your time. And quite brave…”) So YD, that’s a red herring. The video doesn’t claim her egregious error here discredits her entirely. Much of her work is valid exposing liberals. It’s when she lies, covers and defends Republicans for their murder of children and destruction of Christian values that she becomes a hypocrite and should be rebuked.

yankeedoodled said:
judging from the very people that parade the error of doing just that... from those [here at TOL] that abhor judgment
Hey YD, you must not know TOL very well. TOL emphasizes Christ’s teaching, to “judge rightly” (Google those words) and see the TOL article, Judge Rightly is not some guy's name!

yankeedoodled said:
Ann came on to discuss her book and had no real obligation to divert to other topics.
Coulter’s Guilty brings up Mitt Romney about eight times. And she’s hypocritically guilty of committing the same wrongdoing about him that she exposes the liberals for when she identified:
Constant false media reports about Romney; Coulter could have been referring to herself when she wrote: “"the media were unable to stop themselves from spreading unsubstantiated rumors about Romney[]…" (p. 153-154) What? Like Coulter and Republican unsubstantiated rumors that he governed as a pro-lifer; had no choice but to institute homo marriage; did not enact a quasi-socialist extension of gov’t health care; did not dramatically raise taxes; did not use his millions in an attempt to buy silence, or even support, from conservative, pro-life organizations; etc.

yankeedoodled said:
hypocritical blinders…
Hey YD, that would be Ann, condemning liberals who promote homosexual marriage and child killing while defending a Republican who did more for those two wicked goals than almost any other person: single-handedly ordered homo marriage and authorized tax-funded elective abortions.

yankeedoodled said:
I don't see their grounds for demanding perfection
Straw man. Red herring.

yankeedoodled said:
must be flawless. As i find no politician that fits the mold of perfection, is any Christian then guilty of supporting any politician?
Straw man. Such absurd argument could be used to defend any wicked leader, Obama, etc.

To make a statement on a person/politician and then find out his postion changed does not make one a liar.
No, of course not YD. And to document that a politician is lying (even by heroically going beyond the standard proof that his lips are moving, as does the ARTL Coulter Hang-Ups video) does not make one a liar. (Now surely YD, you can agree with that. No?)

yankeedoodled said:
I can't see lynching misdemeanors before felons, it offends my sense of justice.
Hey YD, perhaps you can fine-tune your sense of justice to emote outrage at tax-funded child killing? Or is it just Youtube videos you disagree with that move you to action?

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