Jacob saw God and wrestled with Him

[God's Truth]

God the Father is invisible and lives in unapproachable light.

 

[Bright Raven]

God the Father is invisible and lives in unapproachable light.

So is He invisible or is He in Flesh?

 

[God's Truth]

He made Himself a body in heaven, then gave up that body to come in the flesh, and after dying and rising again, he went to heaven and received that same body he had in heaven before coming to earth.

 

[Apple7]

Jesus is God the Father made visible with a body.

That is what God says.

Nope.

 

[God's Truth]

Nope.

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

 

[Apple7]

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

No mention of The Father.

 

[God's Truth]

No mention of The Father.

God the Father in the Old Testament calls Himself the First and the Last.

Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says--Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

Isaiah 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.

 

[Apple7]

God the Father in the Old Testament calls Himself the First and the Last.

Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says--Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

Isaiah 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.

Yahweh is the First & The Last, three times in the OT....and three times in the NT.

The Trinity.

 

[God's Truth]

Yahweh is the First & The Last, three times in the OT....and three times in the NT.

The Trinity.

God the Father and Jesus Christ are the exact same.

 

[Apple7]

God the Father and Jesus Christ are the exact same.

Each is the One God.

But, not each other.

 

[God's Truth]

Each is the One God.

But, not each other.

You just made three separate and different Gods.

 

[Apple7]

You just made three separate and different Gods.

Only you mentioned three gods.

 

[God's Truth]

Only you mentioned three gods.

No, you did.

 

[God's Truth]

Each is the One God.

But, not each other.

You say there are three different and separate. That makes three different and separate Gods.

 

[Apple7]

You say there are three different and separate. That makes three different and separate Gods.

3 Persons; 1 Being.

The Trinity is One God, not three.

Heretic...

 

[God's Truth]

3 Persons; 1 Being.

The Trinity is One God, not three.

Heretic...

You say the Father is God, and a separate and different God is the Son, and another separate and different God is the Holy Spirit.

That makes three different and separate Gods. That is what you say.

 

[beameup]

You say the Father is God, and a separate and different God is the Son, and another separate and different God is the Holy Spirit.

That makes three different and separate Gods. That is what you say.

They are united as one.

Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit,
hath sent ME: Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy GOD which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. - Isaiah 48:16-17

 

[Apple7]

You say the Father is God, and a separate and different God is the Son, and another separate and different God is the Holy Spirit.

That makes three different and separate Gods. That is what you say.

If three gods is your stance, then prove it...

 

[God's Truth]

They are united as one.

United as one, you say, but they were never separate and distinct in need of being united. They are one and they are the same.

 

[God's Truth]

If three gods is your stance, then prove it...

You make three different Gods because you say they are different and separate.

Go ahead and tell me how you think they are different. Go ahead and explain to me how they are different and separate.