ECT It is most critical that you understand the parables of Jesus!

ZacharyB

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When Jesus gave His parables, He kept asking, “Do you understand?”
Yes, it is most critical at this late hour that we understand His parables!
Let us look closely at one of them …

Matthew 13:24-30 (AMP, 2015 edition) --- Jesus’ Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
24 The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
25 But while he was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed also darnel
(weeds resembling wheat) among the wheat, and went on his way.
26 So when the plants sprouted and formed grain, the darnel (weeds) appeared also.
27 And the servants of the owner came to him and said,
Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then how does it have darnel shoots in it?
28 He replied to them, An enemy has done this.
The servants said to him, Then do you want us to go and weed them out?
29 But he said, No, lest in gathering the wild wheat (weeds resembling wheat),
you root up the [true] wheat along with it.
30 Let them grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will say to the reapers,
Gather the darnel first and bind it in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my granary.

••• NASB footnote: “darnel, a weed resembling wheat”

Matthew 13:37-43 (NLT) --- Jesus’ Explanation of His Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
37 The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed.
38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the people of the Kingdom.
The weeds are the people who belong to the evil one.
39 The enemy who planted the weeds among the wheat is the devil.
The harvest is the end of the world, and the harvesters are the angels.
40 Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world.
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom
everything that causes sin and all who do evil
.
42 And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace,
where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom.
Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!

••• The NASB states the underlined above like this:
41 “they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness”
••• The Amplified Bible (2015 edition) states the underlined above like this:
39 “The harvest is the close and consummation of the age”
41 “they will gather out of His kingdom all causes of offense
[persons by whom others are drawn into error or sin] and all who do iniquity and act wickedly”
43 “Let him who has ears [to hear] be listening,
and let him consider and perceive and understand by hearing.”


Above we see Jesus saying: Satan plants false believers into God’s Kingdom,
who will be thrown out of His Kingdom into the eternal fire, and these are:
• those who cause sin
• those do evil
• those who cause offense
• those who draw others into error (doctrinal errors?)
• those who draw others into sin
• those who do iniquity
• those who act wickedly

Please note: Jesus’ dire warnings about SIN are carried on by Paul and the other NT epistle writers!


“Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
… Instead, gives yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life.
… Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey?
You can be a slave to sin, which leads to (eternal) death, or you can choose to obey God,
which leads to righteous living. … Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living
so that you will become holy.” (Romans 6:12-19, NLT)

••• “new life” – “born from above” believers (with a new nature and the indwelling Holy Spirit) are
no longer slaves of sin; they no longer have to sin; now they are able to choose to sin or not to sin!
 
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jamie

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It is most critical that you understand the parables of Jesus!

It's a good thing the man crucified alongside of Jesus understood those parables. There's no telling what would have happened to him if he hadn't understood.

Tell us, Zachary, what would have happened to him.
 

dodge

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It's a good thing the man crucified alongside of Jesus understood those parables. There's no telling what would have happened to him if he hadn't understood.

Tell us, Zachary, what would have happened to him.

Hello Jamie , It is not as of the thief crucified alongside Jesus had any opportunity to study or know the parables as they had NOT been written yet. We do not have that excuse.

Don't misunderstand I don't believe one has to know the parables to be saved , but there sure is some good advice for everyone contained in the parables , and very good lessons and teachings to navigate through this life.

The thief also never got baptized , and again he did not have the opportunity seeing he was hanging on the cross when he professed his faith in Jesus, but I doubt many have that same excuse.
 

ThreeAngels

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I recommend to you the book Christ's Object Lessons by Ellen White. It contains an explanation of the parables of Jesus.
 

DAN P

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“Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
… Instead, gives yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life.
… Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey?
You can be a slave to sin, which leads to (eternal) death, or you can choose to obey God,
which leads to righteous living. … Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living
so that you will become holy.” (Romans 6:12-19, NLT)

••• “new life” – “born from above” believers (with a new nature and the indwelling Holy Spirit) are
no longer slaves of sin; they no longer have to sin; now they are able to choose to sin or not to sin!
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Hi and if when reading Matt 13:10-16 explains why Jesus spoke to His people in Parables and also in Isa 6:8-13 is told to the Jewish Nation and NOT to the Body of Christ !!

dan p
 

jamie

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Hi and if when reading Matt 13:10-16 explains why Jesus spoke to His people in Parables and also in Isa 6:8-13 is told to the Jewish Nation and NOT to the Body of Christ !!

Jesus was a Jew and kept the law, is he not part of the body of Christ?
 

ThreeAngels

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I don't recommend reading a book by a cult founder :rolleyes:
The Adventist church is no cult -all its principles are based on the Bible. That much cannot be said for the Sunday-keeping churches - they teach for commandments the doctrines of men.
 

Danoh

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The Adventist church is no cult -all its principles are based on the Bible. That much cannot be said for the Sunday-keeping churches - they teach for commandments the doctrines of men.

EVERYONE says that.

FEW are able to prove it ON THEIR OWN, in their OWN handling of The Scripture.

MOST are mere parrots.

To be fair, such IS the case EVEN WITHIN M.A.D.
 

DAN P

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Jesus was a Jew and kept the law, is he not part of the body of Christ?


Hi and NOT in the context of the OT which includes the Gospels !!

In the Dispensation of the Grace of God , Christ is the HEAD of thre BODY !!

dan p
 

Crucible

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The Adventist church is no cult -all its principles are based on the Bible.

That's what they all say :rolleyes:

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Someone beat me to it

Ellen didn't bring anything edifying to the table that wasn't already known. SDA is a giant platitude- and as far as the Sabbath, if Sunday weren't acceptable as the Holy Day than Christianity wouldn't have been blessed by God the past 1600 years. That's sort of the problem with you folk- you aren't actually gaining anything by getting down with the Jews on Saturday. If anything, you are just giving Christian communion the finger.
 

DAN P

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I recommend to you the book Christ's Object Lessons by Ellen White. It contains an explanation of the parables of Jesus.


Hi and why do you keep the 7th DAY for starters ??

Let's see you defend that PERMISE ?

Or start your own thread on what ADVENTIST believe ??

dan p
 

Danoh

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That's what they all say :rolleyes:

edit :chuckle:
Someone beat me to it

Ellen didn't bring anything edifying to the table that wasn't already known. SDA is a giant platitude- and as far as the Sabbath, if Sunday weren't acceptable as the Holy Day than Christianity wouldn't have been blessed by God the past 1600 years. That's sort of the problem with you folk- you aren't actually gaining anything by getting down with the Jews on Saturday. If anything, you are just giving Christian communion the finger.

Conditional blessing, ay?

Boy are you confused.
 

Crucible

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Conditional blessing, ay?

Boy are you confused.

What are you even talking about :AMR:

I doubt you even know why the Sabbath was changed in the first place- while the Sabbath was meant to venerate Creation, Jesus' resurrection marked a new one, which appropriately is Sunday.
 

jamie

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I doubt you even know why the Sabbath was changed in the first place- while the Sabbath was meant to venerate Creation, Jesus' resurrection marked a new one, which appropriately is Sunday.

Let's be honest about this, Jesus was raised to be the first of the firstfruits.

1 Corinthians 15:23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.​

He was raised on the first day of the weeks leading to Pentecost to fulfill the law, which he said he came to do.
 

Interplanner

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When Jesus gave His parables, He kept asking, “Do you understand?”
Yes, it is most critical at this late hour that we understand His parables!
Let us look closely at one of them …

Matthew 13:24-30 (AMP, 2015 edition) --- Jesus’ Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
24 The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
25 But while he was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed also darnel
(weeds resembling wheat) among the wheat, and went on his way.
26 So when the plants sprouted and formed grain, the darnel (weeds) appeared also.
27 And the servants of the owner came to him and said,
Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then how does it have darnel shoots in it?
28 He replied to them, An enemy has done this.
The servants said to him, Then do you want us to go and weed them out?
29 But he said, No, lest in gathering the wild wheat (weeds resembling wheat),
you root up the [true] wheat along with it.
30 Let them grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will say to the reapers,
Gather the darnel first and bind it in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my granary.

••• NASB footnote: “darnel, a weed resembling wheat”

Matthew 13:37-43 (NLT) --- Jesus’ Explanation of His Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
37 The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed.
38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the people of the Kingdom.
The weeds are the people who belong to the evil one.
39 The enemy who planted the weeds among the wheat is the devil.
The harvest is the end of the world, and the harvesters are the angels.
40 Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world.
41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom
everything that causes sin and all who do evil
.
42 And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace,
where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom.
Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!

••• The NASB states the underlined above like this:
41 “they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness”
••• The Amplified Bible (2015 edition) states the underlined above like this:
39 “The harvest is the close and consummation of the age”
41 “they will gather out of His kingdom all causes of offense
[persons by whom others are drawn into error or sin] and all who do iniquity and act wickedly”
43 “Let him who has ears [to hear] be listening,
and let him consider and perceive and understand by hearing.”


Above we see Jesus saying: Satan plants false believers into God’s Kingdom,
who will be thrown out of His Kingdom into the eternal fire, and these are:
• those who cause sin
• those do evil
• those who cause offense
• those who draw others into error (doctrinal errors?)
• those who draw others into sin
• those who do iniquity
• those who act wickedly

Please note: Jesus’ dire warnings about SIN are carried on by Paul and the other NT epistle writers!


“Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
… Instead, gives yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life.
… Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey?
You can be a slave to sin, which leads to (eternal) death, or you can choose to obey God,
which leads to righteous living. … Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living
so that you will become holy.” (Romans 6:12-19, NLT)

••• “new life” – “born from above” believers (with a new nature and the indwelling Holy Spirit) are
no longer slaves of sin; they no longer have to sin; now they are able to choose to sin or not to sin!



So actually it is infiltration that you are concerned about in this thread, not all parables so much.
 

DAN P

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So actually it is infiltration that you are concerned about in this thread, not all parables so much.

Hi and what he does not understand in the meaning of what the KINGDOM of HEAVEN means !!

Iy is what Jesus taught in Matt 4:17 and it will always escape them !!

dan p
 
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