BigBoof1959
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I found a couple of interesting videos by Wal Thornhill on the net this week. This one - http://www.holoscience.com - has information on some of the surprising and "impossible" discoveries made in astronomy recently. Particularly interesting to me was the discovery of incredibly long filaments of electrically active plasma, uniform in width over distances of thousands of light years, with baby stars being formed a various points along their length. This would tend to back up the prediction of "electric universe" cosmologists who claim that electric phenomena, not gravity, is responsible for star and galaxy formation. Mainstream physics will have none of that, and claim instead that this is caused by shockwaves from prior super-nova explosions. Never mind that shock waves usually don't produce sharply twisting zig-zag patterns as seen in these star-forming filaments, or that they have yet to find other evidence of the former super novas.
And this one, which is a little longer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWiBxWieQU from the 2015 "Electric Universe" conference seems to be worth checking out. On either video, if you want to cut down on the amount of time required to get the information, you can do what I did, which is to turn off the volume, then use the gear shaped "tools" icon on the you-tube video screen to bump the speed up to 1.5x or 2x that of normal and turn on the closed captioning. Their CC mode actually reflects what is being said, unlike the phonetically deciphered mish-mash found on most you-tube videos. I was skeptical when I saw the title of the one about finally understanding gravity, but after watching the video, the idea of gravity as an effect of electro-magnetic forces seems to make sense. A good point was made by Mr Thornhill when he questioned the wisdom of using the force of gravity measured on earth and then extrapolating that as a cosmological constant throughout the universe, when they can't even get consistent measurements here on earth. He attributes the success of using what we know about gravity to predict planetary movements, and send spacecraft to definite locations in space, to the fact that gravity is the controlling force only at a certain scale, that being the size of "orbiting planetary systems". At the atomic level on the "micro" end of the scale, and at the galactic level on the "macro" end, the force of electromagnetism is proposed as being dominant. Even at the "orbiting planet" scale where gravity holds sway, he claims that electro-magnetism is responsible for gravity through the slightly elongated orbit of electrons around a nucleus.
The idea of electrical discharges between orbiting planets being a mechanism for transferring mass (and thus gravity) to the outer planet is an interesting idea for explaining the existence of ancient pterodactyls and dragonflies that were too heavy to fly in our current state of gravity and atmospheric pressure, or the dinosaurs with heads at the end of necks so long that steel girders could not have supported them. This idea of electrical exchange between planets has recently been confirmed by the SOHO satellite, detecting a plasma tail going from Venus to Earth when they are lined up with the sun. It would also be consistent with the ancient accounts of "thunderbolts" between Venus, Mars, and the earth. I've posted links to the "Thunderbolts of the Gods" website on a few other forums a long time ago and most people weren't too impressed because their theory is based on historical evidence, not scientific experiments. They dismiss the fact that there are identical ancient pictographs found scattered all over the globe in places where contact between the people who drew them was impossible: they also ignore the fact that scientists can creat the same patterns seen in these pictographs by energizing different plasmas with various electrical charges. Plasmas can also be formed in the lab that look and behave just like galaxies found in space, but on a small scale. So maybe now that scientists are finding a lot more electrical phenomena in what used to be called "empty" space (which is actually full of plasma), perhaps the ancients weren't drunk or high on some other substance when they wrote about lightning bolts hitting earth from Mars and Venus (which, in an "electric universe" could have orbited much closer to earth in the past and relatively quickly found a balance between their orbits through exchanges of mass through electric discharges and magnetic repulsion. The process is described in the video "The Long Road to Understanding Gravity"). Or drew pictures of what may have been energized plasmas surrounding earth. When I put the wild and far out claims of the ancients next to what is now called "exotic" or "extremely complicated" theories of modern physics, I have a hard time deciding which one Occam's razor would rather cut off.
And this one, which is a little longer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWiBxWieQU from the 2015 "Electric Universe" conference seems to be worth checking out. On either video, if you want to cut down on the amount of time required to get the information, you can do what I did, which is to turn off the volume, then use the gear shaped "tools" icon on the you-tube video screen to bump the speed up to 1.5x or 2x that of normal and turn on the closed captioning. Their CC mode actually reflects what is being said, unlike the phonetically deciphered mish-mash found on most you-tube videos. I was skeptical when I saw the title of the one about finally understanding gravity, but after watching the video, the idea of gravity as an effect of electro-magnetic forces seems to make sense. A good point was made by Mr Thornhill when he questioned the wisdom of using the force of gravity measured on earth and then extrapolating that as a cosmological constant throughout the universe, when they can't even get consistent measurements here on earth. He attributes the success of using what we know about gravity to predict planetary movements, and send spacecraft to definite locations in space, to the fact that gravity is the controlling force only at a certain scale, that being the size of "orbiting planetary systems". At the atomic level on the "micro" end of the scale, and at the galactic level on the "macro" end, the force of electromagnetism is proposed as being dominant. Even at the "orbiting planet" scale where gravity holds sway, he claims that electro-magnetism is responsible for gravity through the slightly elongated orbit of electrons around a nucleus.
The idea of electrical discharges between orbiting planets being a mechanism for transferring mass (and thus gravity) to the outer planet is an interesting idea for explaining the existence of ancient pterodactyls and dragonflies that were too heavy to fly in our current state of gravity and atmospheric pressure, or the dinosaurs with heads at the end of necks so long that steel girders could not have supported them. This idea of electrical exchange between planets has recently been confirmed by the SOHO satellite, detecting a plasma tail going from Venus to Earth when they are lined up with the sun. It would also be consistent with the ancient accounts of "thunderbolts" between Venus, Mars, and the earth. I've posted links to the "Thunderbolts of the Gods" website on a few other forums a long time ago and most people weren't too impressed because their theory is based on historical evidence, not scientific experiments. They dismiss the fact that there are identical ancient pictographs found scattered all over the globe in places where contact between the people who drew them was impossible: they also ignore the fact that scientists can creat the same patterns seen in these pictographs by energizing different plasmas with various electrical charges. Plasmas can also be formed in the lab that look and behave just like galaxies found in space, but on a small scale. So maybe now that scientists are finding a lot more electrical phenomena in what used to be called "empty" space (which is actually full of plasma), perhaps the ancients weren't drunk or high on some other substance when they wrote about lightning bolts hitting earth from Mars and Venus (which, in an "electric universe" could have orbited much closer to earth in the past and relatively quickly found a balance between their orbits through exchanges of mass through electric discharges and magnetic repulsion. The process is described in the video "The Long Road to Understanding Gravity"). Or drew pictures of what may have been energized plasmas surrounding earth. When I put the wild and far out claims of the ancients next to what is now called "exotic" or "extremely complicated" theories of modern physics, I have a hard time deciding which one Occam's razor would rather cut off.
