The Flavian Signature..........
The Flavian Signature..........
Has anyone read Josephus,wars of the Jews and early christian history and roman history?
it seems the romans,according to history made up Jesus,buried the text about Yeshua of Nazarene... and made it reflect the roman agenda...
if you have knowledge of this please respond.....
the bible does not prove itself...but history facts and logic / reason do hold wight here..
There is some historical support and typology similiarities for a fabrication of some of the gospel accounts and fictionalizing of a 'Christ' figure ordered by the powers that be, in this case The Flavians who may have orchestrated a religious tool for their own benefit, but it apparently took flight and grew into its own creation as it were. This is just one view of course with some scholars recognizing some parellels between the gospels and the works of Josephus, and other Roman branding or inflections imprinted into the Christian mythos.
Joseph Atwill, is a primary advocate for Christianity being more or less a Roman invention inflected into the Jewish landscape and brooding grounds of early Christian literature. I haven't read his book -
Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus: The Flavian Signature , but he seems to draw some interesting correlaries there.
Here is a short synopsis video of a much larger documentary presentation -
Also, a wonderful dialogue between Acharya S (aka D.M. Murdock) and Joe Atwill on the subject. Acharya is just noting some parallels and possibilities of Joe's hypothesis, and is a leading pioneer in this field of her own note. Caution: These are writers/researchers who do NOT believe in an actual historical Jesus and see Christianity as a created/invented/morphed religious entity...and have their own historical studies and proofs that support their thesis.
In challenge and response to the OP, this is offered. I myself grew up with a belief in the historical Jesus, but have also been liberal in my studies of views that question such, and explore many different venues and traditions that have their own 'form' or 'version' of Jesus or the 'Christ', so am pretty 'eclectic' when it comes to Christology issues,....since while a devout spiritualist of sorts, I also keep a somewhat open skeptical/agnostic stance on any available information that comes along, always researching and testing it, historically, scientifically and by way of personal religious experience (and this will of course be 'subjective', as far as my own spiritual proclivities and sensitivies are concerned). So, I'm not at all fearful of reviewing the most critical or even vehement charges against the authenticity of Christianity ( or any other religious tradition),
because one must be intellectually honest to examine the evidence....or lack thereof.
Anyways,...this should be an interesting discussion
In-joy!
pj
