God is Jesus vs. Jesus is God

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God's Truth

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I have NEVER debated with you. I have had 'conversations' with you. DEBATE is what you and AMR did, which BTW you lost miserably 'cause you have a thingy with 'what I, gt, say, is the truth. I, gt, can care less that you prove things to me with the Bible.'

This is debating woman.


I like you now. I can see a lot of good things in what you say, however, your tendency is to mix truth with UNtruth, which does nothing but bring confusion to everybody.

If this is how you treat someone that you like, then who needs enemies?

We would go at it face-to-face also.
I am sure I would like you.
I'll repeat myself, I HATE YOUR false doctrine, though.

God's hand is on me I sit alone.
 

2003cobra

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Jesus is love.

That is what Jesus is.

It is what God the Father is.

They are exactly the same.

No, I agree with you that Jesus is love.

I disagree with you vociferously that Jesus is the Father.

God's Truth says that the Father sent the Son.

How sad that you cannot see God's Truth only gt's truth.
I also think it is wrong to say “Jesus is the Father.”

Jesus certainly represents and reflects the Father.
 

God's Truth

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No, woman. Debate is what you and AMR did.



You, gt, consider me your enemy because I tell you God's Truth? How sad.



If God's hand is on you, you do NOT sit alone.

You like to twist things.
I debate here.
You go against God's Truth and you also are verbally abusive.
God's hand is on me and I sit alone is what scripture says, and you go against it.

Jeremiah 15:17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.
 

God's Truth

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No, I agree with you that Jesus is love.

I disagree with you vociferously that Jesus is the Father.

God's Truth says that the Father sent the Son.

How sad that you cannot see God's Truth only gt's truth.

There is only one God and He is the Father.

The Father and the Son are the same.
 

God's Truth

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I also think it is wrong to say “Jesus is the Father.”

Jesus certainly represents and reflects the Father.

Jesus says when you see him you see the Father.

Tell me, when you see Jesus one day, are you going to wonder when you will see the Father? Yes or no.
 

God's Truth

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I can’t predict the future. The gift of prophecy is not one that I have.

As I wrote, Jesus reflects the Father.

There is no scriptural justification for calling Him the Father.

What in the world does my question have to do with predicting the future?

When you see Jesus will you also want to see the Father?
 

God's Truth

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There is no scriptural justification for calling Him the Father.

Scriptures that say Jesus is God the Father:

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.

1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.


The ROCK that FATHERED them was Christ.

Jesus says those who overcome he will be their GOD and they will be his CHILDREN.

See Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.


If we are Jesus' children, then he is our Father.


John 14:18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

Did you read that scripture? Who but a Father will not leave children as orphans?


Jesus says when you SEE him, you have SEEN the Father.

See John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.


That means when we see Jesus, we can say, "I see the Father."

God says Jesus will be called God, Father, and Holy Spirit. So that is what I call Jesus.

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 

God's Truth

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You asked me what would happen one day when I see Jesus.

Go back and read your question. It is about what will happen in the future.

Pretend you are now seeing Jesus. Will you wonder where the Father is?

You know with your false doctrine you would have to.
 

lifeisgood

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You like to twist things.
I debate here.
You go against God's Truth and you also are verbally abusive.
God's hand is on me and I sit alone is what scripture says, and you go against it.

Jeremiah 15:17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.

This also is not debate. Debate is what you and AMR did. Oh, well....
 
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