freelight's cosmic cafe

[PureX]

Hmmm … time.

Time is a concept we use to acknowledge change. Both controlled and uncontrolled change. And change is an inevitable aspect of existence. So I guess the passage of time is also an inevitable aspect of existence, for us.

Can anything be 'eternal', then? Logically, something could only be eternal if it were unchanging. And nothing that we know of, in existence, is unchanging.

But then, there is a lot about existence that we do not know, or even know of. So perhaps ...

 

[chrysostom]

Hmmm … time.

Time is a concept we use to acknowledge change. Both controlled and uncontrolled change. And change is an inevitable aspect of existence. So I guess the passage of time is also an inevitable aspect of existence, for us.

Can anything be 'eternal', then? Logically, something could only be eternal if it were unchanging. And nothing that we know of, in existence, is unchanging.

But then, there is a lot about existence that we do not know, or even know of. So perhaps ...

you are thinking in terms of matter
and
you will never really make sense of it
matter does not exist as you understand it
it is an illusion of a non dual nature
and
that non dual nature is God
nothing can exist outside of God

 

[PureX]

you are thinking in terms of matter
and
you will never really make sense of it
matter does not exist as you understand it
it is an illusion of a non dual nature
and
that non dual nature is God
nothing can exist outside of God

You could be right.

The material universe that we live in, and are a part of, is very dynamic: always changing. But the 'laws' that are governing all that dynamism, are constant, and unchanging, or the universe would fall into chaos, and cease to be what it is. And so we may consider those laws, 'eternal'.

Interesting point!

 

[chrysostom]

matter is incomprehensible
it and only it requires space
and
space is incomprehensible
the hindus discovered that long ago
and
gave us
an illusion of a non dual nature
spinoza learned that when he was 23 years old
and
was rejected by his town, his religion, and his family for it

 

[OCTOBER23]

well-being includes healthy-choices

OK, Give me a Blueberry, Grape, Banana, Beet smoothie.

 

[patrick jane]

The Cafe owner isn't in yet today.

 

[freelight]

Adjusting your telescope.......

Adjusting your telescope.......

freelight, please tell us about time. Is time an illusion of sorts ?

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Its a perceptual measure of points, images, appearances, forms, concepts relating in 'sequence', as long as perception of movement, space, distance, dimensions exist. As long as there is motion of substances and forms (at least seemingly so) and a 'mind' existing to perceive such,...the notion of 'time' is present in some way. In a sense, its an 'illusion' (maya) by its nuance of 'appearance', as the mind can scan to a 'past', 'present' and 'future',...but these are just perceptions of consciousness as far as it can know or relate anything in the NOW. All that exists is NOW,...its just telescoped in various ways from beyond this 'point' (where both time and eternity originate)


This is a wonderful subject,...my blog post here covers some commentary and resource venues on 'space-time' -

Blog portal on space-time (need to renovate and update)

Consider this: - At any place or time, you are cognizant of 'here and now'. From this 'point' of awareness, you can adjust your scope of consciousness,...but its all arising/appearing in the present Awareness that You ARE (here assuming that your true Self or Identity is pure awareness). - all else is but an kaleidoscope of various perceptions mirroring themselves as a cascade of images on the screen of consciousness (with all its various distortions or interpretations, ever subject to change). It is the timeless being looking out thru your 'mind' however, that is of a timeless essence, or the timeless itself.

Where is 'time' existing for you right now?...but in the 'now'? - there is no time actually in the pure NOWness of each moment of awareness, except but where the 'mind' interjects or assumes it by way of some kind of 'relativity'. But since the story of life/creation goes on (as there is movement)....so does 'time'.

 

[freelight]

Universal Law.....

Universal Law.....

You could be right.

The material universe that we live in, and are a part of, is very dynamic: always changing. But the 'laws' that are governing all that dynamism, are constant, and unchanging, or the universe would fall into chaos, and cease to be what it is. And so we may consider those laws, 'eternal'.

Interesting point!

Indeed,...behind the ever changing seasons of creation as it continues on its cycles, are unchanging laws that govern such movements.

 

[freelight]

He doesn't have time

Life is what we do in space,...'time' is just a measuring-stick whereby our movements are 'coordinated' in their various determinations :surf:

Time is the one universal endowment of all will creatures; it is the "one talent" intrusted to all intelligent beings. You all have time in which to insure your survival; and time is fatally squandered only when it is buried in neglect, when you fail so to utilize it as to make certain the survival of your soul. Failure to improve one's time to the fullest extent possible does not impose fatal penalties; it merely retards the pilgrim of time in his journey of ascent. If survival is gained, all other losses can be retrieved. ~ The Urantia Book, (28:6.9)

 

[freelight]

All-inclusive Reality..........

All-inclusive Reality..........

matter is incomprehensible
it and only it requires space
and
space is incomprehensible
the hindus discovered that long ago
and
gave us
an illusion of a non dual nature
spinoza learned that when he was 23 years old
and
was rejected by his town, his religion, and his family for it

The intrinsic unity at the heart of all that exists is of a 'non-dual' nature, while all existence and creation arises and has its movements within the context of that all-pervading unity. Hence the appearances we see in the objective world of duality and difference are but 'appearances' (maya), - they are temporal and subject to transformation, while the non-dual essence at the heart of all things remains as the unchanging essential reality behind all forms.

For those who might remember, I had a thread on 'Non-duality' once upon a time, and may create another one in 'time' - otherwise, one can get descriptions of what 'non-duality' is by referring to many great teachers of this subject here.

Reality is all-inclusive of whatever is definable and undefinable....because it is What IS (this Is-ness includes all space and time).

 

[Zeke]

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[freelight]

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Ah,.....a sentence disintegrated back into the primal No-Thing-ness

As such was an intimation on space and time,...the wonderful measures of such an inquiry ever remain, as long as space and time exists in which to make the inquiry.

 

[Quincy]

Cosmic cafe, great idea! Is there a plant based menu?

 

[Zeke]

Ah,.....a sentence disintegrated back into the primal No-Thing-ness

As such was an intimation on space and time,...the wonderful measures of such an inquiry ever remain, as long as space and time exists in which to make the inquiry.

The cosmic sentence went back into the vat (U) of mystical beginnings, it's five O'clock some where! Eccl 3:15.

 

[Quincy]

Cosmic cafe, great idea! Is there a plant based menu?

*crickets*

I'm, I'm used to that by now.

Spoiler

 

[freelight]

Father-Mother-God......

Father-Mother-God......

Cosmic cafe, great idea! Is there a plant based menu?

Yes, vegan/vegetarian menu, mostly organic selections honoring earth, fire, water, sky - Here we honor the 'Father-Mother', so you get only the most premium and pure elements.

However, you know the intellectual/spiritual menu here is quite eclectic, so samples of such are much encouraged as well as offering your own co-creations in Spirit

 

[freelight]

All-consuming Love..........

All-consuming Love..........

The cosmic sentence went back into the vat (U) of mystical beginnings, it's five O'clock some where! Eccl 3:15.

It is good to know that infinite Love ultimately absolves all wrongs, obliterates all sin. - while we must suffer to some degree the consequences for wrong-doing, the corrective measures of love forever avail, at last making us whole again.

Love avails.

 

[Zeke]

It is good to know that infinite Love ultimately absolves all wrongs, obliterates all sin. - while we must suffer to some degree the consequences for wrong-doing, the corrective measures of love forever avail, at last making us whole again.

Love avails.

The benevolent space of silence, the rest area for cosmic seekers.

 

[patrick jane]

It is good to know that infinite Love ultimately absolves all wrongs, obliterates all sin. - while we must suffer to some degree the consequences for wrong-doing, the corrective measures of love forever avail, at last making us whole again.

Love avails.

Love prevails at freelight's Cosmic Cafe

 

[freelight]

Agape..............

Agape..............

Love prevails at freelight's Cosmic Cafe

Aumen

While on the subject of love:

100:4.6 You cannot truly love your fellows by a mere act of the will. Love is only born of thoroughgoing understanding of your neighbor's motives and sentiments. It is not so important to love all men today as it is that each day you learn to love one more human being. If each day or each week you achieve an understanding of one more of your fellows, and if this is the limit of your ability, then you are certainly socializing and truly spiritualizing your personality. Love is infectious, and when human devotion is intelligent and wise, love is more catching than hate. But only genuine and unselfish love is truly contagious. If each mortal could only become a focus of dynamic affection, this benign virus of love would soon pervade the sentimental emotion-stream of humanity to such an extent that all civilization would be encompassed by love, and that would be the realization of the brotherhood of man.



- UB

14 If you would ask me what to study I would say, yourselves; and when you will have studied them, and then would ask me what to study next, I would reply, yourselves. 15 He who knows well his lower self, knows the illusions of the world, knows of the things that pass away; and he who knows his higher self, knows God; knows well the things that cannot pass away. 16 Thrice blessed is the man who has made purity and love his very own; he has been ransomed from the perils of the lower self and is himself his higher self. 17 Men seek salvation from an evil that they deem a living monster of the nether world; and they have gods that are but demons in disguise; all powerful, yet full of jealousy and hate and lust; 18 Whose favours must be bought with costly sacrifice of fruits, and of the lives of birds, and animals, and human kind. 19 And yet these gods possess no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to sympathise, no power to save. 20 This evil is myth; these gods are made of air, clothed with shadows of a thought. 21 The only devil from which men must be redeemed is self, the lower self. If man would find his devil he must look within; his name is self. 22 If man would find his saviour he must look within; and when the demon self has been dethroned the saviour, Love, will be exulted to the throne of power. 23 The David of the light is Purity, who slays the strong Goliath of the dark, and seats the saviour, Love, upon the throne.

- Aquarian Gospel, ch. 8