For Those Who Still Insist That There Was Election Fraud

Arthur Brain

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That's a lie. You can find the truth here, not that you care about truth:

Some people are just going to convince themselves that the former president was unfairly ousted from office no matter what. The saddest thing is, they don't even realize that he didn't and doesn't care about any of them.
 

marke

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That's a lie. You can find the truth here, not that you care about truth:


That is not the truth. That is a perversion of the truth. Your article admits some poll watchers were kept at a distance too great for them to be able to clearly see what the democrat workers were doing. Your article admits that. Your article also does not mention other precincts where poll watchers were banned from the building altogether, which is an obvious attempt on the part of the 'fact-checkers' to deceive the readers into thinking nothing like that occurred.
 

marke

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Some people are just going to convince themselves that the former president was unfairly ousted from office no matter what. The saddest thing is, they don't even realize that he didn't and doesn't care about any of them.

I am not interested in Trump at this point. I am offended that democrat elections officials repeatedly broke the laws for obvious political advantage and too many American people and officials are too dull or corrupt to try to expose their corruption and put a stop to it.
 

Arthur Brain

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I am not interested in Trump at this point. I am offended that democrat elections officials repeatedly broke the laws for obvious political advantage and too many American people and officials are too dull or corrupt to try to expose their corruption and put a stop to it.
Evidence? Actually, why am I even bothering to ask...
 

marke

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Evidence? Actually, why am I even bothering to ask...
How many times should we keep on presenting evidence to you that you do not acknowledge?

“They knew what happened and they tried to cover it up,” he said.
Benson and Antrim County officials have disputed the claims, arguing that human mistakes led to the county twice reporting skewed results.
The county initially reported that Democrat Joe Biden received over 3,000 more votes in the county than then-President Donald Trump. Democrats Gary Peters and Dana Ferguson were also shown ahead of their Republican opponents.
The county twice released an amended vote count—first on the day after the election, showing Trump received more votes, and again on Nov. 21, 2020, indicating a different number of votes for Biden, Trump, and overall. The total number of votes dropped by 2,013.
More recently, DePerno and Benson filed competing analyses of the election, with the plaintiff asserting his team found it possible to flip votes, and the intervening defendant alleging the election mistakes were the result of human error and not from “a security breach” or done deliberately.
 

Arthur Brain

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How many times should we keep on presenting evidence to you that you do not acknowledge?

“They knew what happened and they tried to cover it up,” he said.
Benson and Antrim County officials have disputed the claims, arguing that human mistakes led to the county twice reporting skewed results.
The county initially reported that Democrat Joe Biden received over 3,000 more votes in the county than then-President Donald Trump. Democrats Gary Peters and Dana Ferguson were also shown ahead of their Republican opponents.
The county twice released an amended vote count—first on the day after the election, showing Trump received more votes, and again on Nov. 21, 2020, indicating a different number of votes for Biden, Trump, and overall. The total number of votes dropped by 2,013.
More recently, DePerno and Benson filed competing analyses of the election, with the plaintiff asserting his team found it possible to flip votes, and the intervening defendant alleging the election mistakes were the result of human error and not from “a security breach” or done deliberately.
I'm looking for credible evidence from credible sources, not far right wing sources. Got any of that?
 

marke

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I'm looking for credible evidence from credible sources, not far right wing sources. Got any of that?
I see. If a source points out credible evidence of flawed results in some big partisan precincts you will simply dismiss the evidence as badly sourced if you do not like what is reported. Did it ever occur to you to do your own research to see if you can disprove what is reported or are you one of those people who will believe only what your political gurus and gods tell you?
 

Arthur Brain

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I see. If a source points out credible evidence of flawed results in some big partisan precincts you will simply dismiss the evidence as badly sourced if you do not like what is reported. Did it ever occur to you to do your own research to see if you can disprove what is reported or are you one of those people who will believe only what your political gurus and gods tell you?
You've had verifiable evidence that thoroughly debunks all of this widespread evidence fraud nonsense. The only sites that continue to support such are conspiracy and wingnut ones. Simple as.
 

Jefferson

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There probably are but the likes of what conspiracy theorists put up on here don't count. Totally discredited and agenda pushing rubbish for the most part.
So you're not capable of naming a single source you would consider to be right wing but not far right wing. Very revealing. What do you think this says about you?
 

Arthur Brain

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So you're not capable of naming a single source you would consider to be right wing but not far right wing. Very revealing. What do you think this says about you?
It's not that revealing at all Jefferson. There are two tabloid presses in the UK that veer to the right and the left, 'The Sun' and 'The Mirror'. They're both garbage as is tabloid press in general. Then 'The Daily Mail' etc...If I want serious journalism and credible corroboration then I don't get my sources from any such ilk. You, OTOH, have touted 'QAnon' as something to be taken seriously along with the likes of 'The Gateway Pundit' et al and all completely discredited. Is it any wonder that the likes of Clete even vents his frustration at the conspiracy garbage that you and others tout on here?
 

marke

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You've had verifiable evidence that thoroughly debunks all of this widespread evidence fraud nonsense. The only sites that continue to support such are conspiracy and wingnut ones. Simple as.
Democrat cultists believe lying leftist propagandist sources are accurate and other sources are frauds. That is how deception works in the deluded.
 

marke

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There probably are but the likes of what conspiracy theorists put up on here don't count. Totally discredited and agenda pushing rubbish for the most part.
Leftist democrats create the wildest lying conspiracy theories and then claim the truth is a lying conspiracy theory.
 

marke

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It's not that revealing at all Jefferson. There are two tabloid presses in the UK that veer to the right and the left, 'The Sun' and 'The Mirror'. They're both garbage as is tabloid press in general. Then 'The Daily Mail' etc...If I want serious journalism and credible corroboration then I don't get my sources from any such ilk. You, OTOH, have touted 'QAnon' as something to be taken seriously along with the likes of 'The Gateway Pundit' et al and all completely discredited. Is it any wonder that the likes of Clete even vents his frustration at the conspiracy garbage that you and others tout on here?
For those foolish enough to claim democrats do not commit voter fraud, here is another of thousands of reports to the contrary:

https://www.rnla.org/vote_fraud_likely_gone_on_here_for_years_in_alabama - An Alabama grand jury indicted the girlfriend of Dothan commissioner Amos Newsome on 23 counts of vote fraud in the campaign to re-elect Newsome last August. After absentee ballots favored Newsome by a 119-5 margin, his opponent filed a complaint, because Newsome won by only 14 votes. Prompted by the wide discrepancy, the county sheriff conducted a thorough investigation over several weeks, interviewing more than 100 witnesses.
The alleged vote fraud scheme includes two additional women besides Newsom’s girlfriend. The first woman is charged with 20 counts of vote fraud, the second is charged with 10 counts.
Sheriff Andy Hughes says that, “voter fraud has likely gone on here for years, usually in the same districts.”
The three women are charged under a state statute that criminalizes changing absentee ballot votes of another, voting more than once by absentee ballot in the same election, voting on behalf of another, and soliciting illegal absentee voting. Furthermore, “Any person who willfully aids any person unlawfully to vote an absentee ballot, any person who knowingly and unlawfully votes an absentee ballot, and any voter who votes both an absentee and a regular ballot at any election shall be similarly punished.”
 

marke

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There probably are but the likes of what conspiracy theorists put up on here don't count. Totally discredited and agenda pushing rubbish for the most part.
Democrats keep obstructing voter fraud investigations while dishonestly claiming the reason they do not want investigations into possible voter fraud is that no voter fraud ever occurred. Most skeptical Americans cannot take the democrat claims at face value, however, especially after democrats so cruelly lied about Trump for so many years. Besides, what harm can be done by investigating voting processes in which no voter fraud occurred? Democrats prove they have dishonest motives in obstructing voter fraud investigations.

The Arizona Senate has ordered yet another count of ballots because so many Arizonans demand the count to restore their confidence in elections. Democrats and leftists do themselves no favors by labeling those Arizonan voters "conspiracy theorists."

The ballots cast in Arizona’s largest county in the 2020 election will be counted for a third time on orders from the state’s Senate.
Nearly 2.1 million ballots submitted in Maricopa County for the presidential contest were tabulated, as normal, by election officials. They were recounted by hand by audit teams hired by the state Senate in a process that was completed late last month.
Now the Senate will do its own recount, which will provide a number to compare with those from the county and from the auditors.
“Maricopa County says there’s 2,089,563 ballots. We did the hand count, and they’re finalizing that number, but we just wanted a third number to tie everything together, make sure we have more—the more data points, the better,” former Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, the Senate’s audit liaison, told The Epoch Times.
The new count will focus on the number of ballots and not the actual votes, unlike the first two tabulations.
 

Arthur Brain

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Democrats keep obstructing voter fraud investigations while dishonestly claiming the reason they do not want investigations into possible voter fraud is that no voter fraud ever occurred. Most skeptical Americans cannot take the democrat claims at face value, however, especially after democrats so cruelly lied about Trump for so many years. Besides, what harm can be done by investigating voting processes in which no voter fraud occurred? Democrats prove they have dishonest motives in obstructing voter fraud investigations.

The Arizona Senate has ordered yet another count of ballots because so many Arizonans demand the count to restore their confidence in elections. Democrats and leftists do themselves no favors by labeling those Arizonan voters "conspiracy theorists."

The ballots cast in Arizona’s largest county in the 2020 election will be counted for a third time on orders from the state’s Senate.
Nearly 2.1 million ballots submitted in Maricopa County for the presidential contest were tabulated, as normal, by election officials. They were recounted by hand by audit teams hired by the state Senate in a process that was completed late last month.
Now the Senate will do its own recount, which will provide a number to compare with those from the county and from the auditors.
“Maricopa County says there’s 2,089,563 ballots. We did the hand count, and they’re finalizing that number, but we just wanted a third number to tie everything together, make sure we have more—the more data points, the better,” former Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, the Senate’s audit liaison, told The Epoch Times.
The new count will focus on the number of ballots and not the actual votes, unlike the first two tabulations.
Um, nah. This is just sensationalist rubbish that appeals to gullible people and especially those on the far right. There is no widespread fraud, Trump just lost the election and nobody needed to 'cruelly lie' about him either. His atrocious barrage of tweets and embarrassing press briefings took care of that.
 
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