Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

marke

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I understand you're afraid of mail-in ballots.

Never mind that the fraudit in AZ turned up *surprise!* a Biden win.

Never mind that states have been running efficient mail-in ballot elections for years.

Never mind that *you* don't get to control how people come to their decisions. "vote before the final debates are held" reeks of desperation.
Tammany Hall-style crooked democrat politicians and elections officials have been running successful democrat voter fraud operations for decades. These crooks rely on the stupidity of the American public they know are easily persuaded to believe democrat lies and condemn truths the democrats claim are lies.
 

marke

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I'm sure you think you're above all that.



Would you rather I insult your willful ignorance? As I said, there are a number of states who run efficient mail-only elections.

As one of five states—along with Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, and Utah—that conduct elections entirely by mail-in voting, Washingtonians haven’t had to go to a physical polling place since at least 2011. (Each county opens a voting center prior to each primary, special election, and general election, according to the Secretary of State.) Washington was the second state in the country to go all-in on mail-in voting, following the first state, Oregon, which enacted its law in 2000.

California is the latest addition.



One example:

Texas closes hundreds of polling sites, making it harder for minorities to vote

Guardian analysis finds that places where black and Latino population is growing by the largest numbers experienced the majority of closures and could benefit Republicans

Last year, Texas led the US south in an unenviable statistic: closing down the most polling stations, making it more difficult for people to vote and arguably benefiting Republicans.

A report by civil rights group The Leadership Conference Education Fund found that 750 polls had been closed statewide since 2012.

Long considered a Republican bastion, changing racial demographics in the state have caused leading Democrats to recast Texas as a potential swing state. Texas Democratic party official Manny Garcia has called it “the biggest battleground state in the country”.

The closures could exacerbate Texas’s already chronically low voter turnout rates, to the advantage of incumbent Republicans. Ongoing research by University of Houston political scientists Jeronimo Cortina and Brandon Rottinghaus indicates that people are less likely to vote if they have to travel farther to do so, and the effect is disproportionately greater for some groups of voters, such as Latinxs. . . .

A Guardian analysis based on that report confirms what many activists have suspected: the places where the black and Latinx population is growing by the largest numbers have experienced the vast majority of the state’s poll site closures.

The analysis finds that the 50 counties that gained the most Black and Latinx residents between 2012 and 2018 closed 542 polling sites, compared to just 34 closures in the 50 counties that have gained the fewest black and Latinx residents. This is despite the fact that the population in the former group of counties has risen by 2.5 million people, whereas in the latter category the total population has fallen by over 13,000. . . .
Democrats continue to promote hateful, racist, and ungodly false narratives for political purposes. They are making America bad for everyone, not just patriotic Americans.
 

marke

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Uh, an election isn't won within the first few hours so don't be dense in turn. Might as well argue that someone in front in a hundred metres final has won before the finishing line beckons. He might have been in front when he stupidly claimed victory but he was far behind when all the results came in. Deal with it.
Ballot dumps for Biden in the middle of the night in the absence of poll watchers and without accompanying verifications of validity is what Americans find unacceptable, and they should.
 

TomO

Get used to it.
Hall of Fame
There are likely millions of democrats who do not know that what they have done is called ballot harvesting and is illegal.
*Meh* :unsure: ...It's a hard thing to pin down. Kind of like porn, ya know it when you see it. Like with bussing people to the polls, where does the line get drawn between performing a civic service and electioneering?...How far away you park the bus?

When is it ballot harvesting and when is your little club merely making sure Aunt Tillies nursing home friends or the denizens of the local homeless shelter are represented at the polls?
You get enough people working these angles & you don't really even need dead people. 😐
 
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marke

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Same ole bunk...
Ballot harvesting is real and has been going on for decades. Even republicans have committed the crime that democrats are fighting like hell now to legalize.


Last week at the Republican convention, President Trump told a cautionary story about a program that may be unfamiliar to many voters.

"In North Carolina, you had a fine pastor. A fine man. And they got him on harvesting," Mr. Trump said. "They wanted to put him in jail. And now they want to make it all so that everybody can harvest."

What he was describing — ballot harvesting — involves a law that allows third parties to collect and deliver ballots in some states. Though he misstated the details, Mr. Trump was referring to the high-profile fraud case in North Carolina's 9th Congressional District in 2018. There, Republican operative McCrae Dowless was indicted for mishandling absentee ballots in an effort to sway the election for a pastor named Mark Harris. The election was overturned and Harris, who denied knowing what Dowless was doing, withdrew his candidacy.
 

annabenedetti

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Ballot harvesting is real and has been going on for decades. Even republicans have committed the crime that democrats are fighting like hell now to legalize.

Democrats aren't 'fighting to legalize' altering votes and forging signatures.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ballot-harvesting-collection-absentee-voting-explained-rules/

McCrae Dowless was indicted for mishandling absentee ballots . . . . to fraudulently sign them . . . . North Carolina allows only a close relative or verified legal guardian to return the ballot, and a witness must sign the absentee ballot envelope.

More from your link:

North Carolina allows only a close relative or verified legal guardian to return the ballot, and a witness must sign the absentee ballot envelope.

Dowless (and his operatives) broke the law by not being close relatives or legal guardians, and by marking votes on the ballots and forging the signatures.

Also from your link:

26 states allow a voter to designate someone else to return their ballot for them, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. A dozen of those states limit the number of ballots that the designee can collect and return on behalf of voters. And 10 states allow the ballot to be returned by the voter's family member.

You're conflating returning a completed and signed ballot for a third party in a state where it's legal to do so - with the criminal act of altering votes and/or forging the signature.
 

marke

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Democrats aren't 'fighting to legalize' altering votes and forging signatures.



More from your link:



Dowless (and his operatives) broke the law by not being close relatives or legal guardians, and by marking votes on the ballots and forging the signatures.

Also from your link:



You're conflating returning a completed and signed ballot for a third party in a state where it's legal to do so - with the criminal act of altering votes and/or forging the signature.
Democrats are hugely in favor of democrat ballot harvesting but adamantly opposed to republican ballot harvesting.


Democrats across the country have spent the past four years attempting to dismantle safeguards intended to promote election integrity, arguing that such precautions actually represent a nefarious Republican plot to suppress voter turnout. But their self-serving rhetoric evaporates when the GOP uses their own tactics against them.

California Democrats are up in arms about ballot drop boxes that Republicans have placed in strategic locations in three highly contested congressional districts. Attorney General Xavier Becerra this week threatened criminal charges against those responsible for the boxes.
 

marke

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Nope, if you're not gonna address the misinformation in your previous post, I'm not gonna move on with you to your next thing.
If you cannot understand my last post then I don't think there is any point in you attempting to understand my future posts.
 

annabenedetti

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If you cannot understand my last post then I don't think there is any point in you attempting to understand my future posts.

Oh, I understand all too well, marke, how you post one crass falsehood after another that you can't support with facts, until you have a firehose of falsehoods spraying all over the forum.
 

marke

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Oh, I understand all too well, marke, how you post one crass falsehood after another that you can't support with facts, until you have a firehose of falsehoods spraying all over the forum.
Just because democrat cult leaders claim the truth is a lie is no reason for you to blindly follow them.
 

annabenedetti

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Just because democrat cult leaders claim the truth is a lie is no reason for you to blindly follow them.

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annabenedetti

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Jan. 6 rioters exploited little-known Capitol weak spots: A handful of unreinforced windows


Video shows some of the first rioters to break through the police line running past 15 reinforced windows, making a beeline for a recessed area on the Senate side of the building, where two unreinforced windows and two doors with unreinforced glass were all that stood between them and hallways leading to lawmakers inside who had not begun to evacuate.

A rioter’s fist cracked the glass of one window, video posted to social media shows. A stolen police riot shield and a wooden pole finished the job. In seconds, the unreinforced glass gave way in a single sheet. Rioters poured through the window. Similar methods were used to break glass in at least three other locations. . . .

The four unreinforced windows and doors that were the first points of entry on Jan. 6 are all in a recessed alcove, shielded by exterior walls on three sides. They were not the first windows, nor the easiest to reach for rioters storming up the Capitol steps.
 

ok doser

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Jan. 6 rioters exploited little-known Capitol weak spots: A handful of unreinforced windows


Video shows some of the first rioters to break through the police line running past 15 reinforced windows, making a beeline for a recessed area on the Senate side of the building, where two unreinforced windows and two doors with unreinforced glass were all that stood between them and hallways leading to lawmakers inside who had not begun to evacuate.

A rioter’s fist cracked the glass of one window, video posted to social media shows. A stolen police riot shield and a wooden pole finished the job. In seconds, the unreinforced glass gave way in a single sheet. Rioters poured through the window. Similar methods were used to break glass in at least three other locations. . . .

The four unreinforced windows and doors that were the first points of entry on Jan. 6 are all in a recessed alcove, shielded by exterior walls on three sides. They were not the first windows, nor the easiest to reach for rioters storming up the Capitol steps.
"Rioters" ??

Are we no longer pretending that they were "insurrectionists" ?
 

annabenedetti

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"Rioters" ??

Are we no longer pretending that they were "insurrectionists" ?

Not to worry. You just had to read further.

The millions of dollars spent to harden the Capitol after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1998 shooting of two Capitol Police officers at an entrance checkpoint and Sept. 11 were targeted at protecting the highest number of lives in case of a bomb or explosion.

“Nobody ever talked about the potential of an insurrection and thousands of people storming the Capitol,” said former architect of the Capitol Alan Hantman, who held the role from 1997 to 2007.
 

annabenedetti

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If you cannot understand my last post then I don't think there is any point in you attempting to understand my future posts.

Oh, I understand all too well, marke, how you post one crass falsehood after another that you can't support with facts, until you have a firehose of falsehoods spraying all over the forum.

marke's method: 😐

Gish gallop

The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a debater attempts to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. The term was coined by Eugenie Scott; it is named after the creationist Duane Gish, who used the technique frequently against scientists and other defenders of the scientific fact of evolution.

During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate. In practice, each point raised by the "Gish galloper" takes considerably more time to refute or fact-check than it did to state in the first place. The technique wastes an opponent's time...
 

ok doser

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Not to worry. You just had to read further.

The millions of dollars spent to harden the Capitol after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1998 shooting of two Capitol Police officers at an entrance checkpoint and Sept. 11 were targeted at protecting the highest number of lives in case of a bomb or explosion.

“Nobody ever talked about the potential of an insurrection and thousands of people storming the Capitol,” said former architect of the Capitol Alan Hantman, who held the role from 1997 to 2007.
I'm sorry- to refer to "the potential of an insurrection" suggests that it is recognized that what occurred January 6th is only considered to have been an "insurrection" by retarded leftists.

And "thousands of people storming the Capitol" ???

Never happened.

Nice hyperbole though, for the weak-minded leftist idiots 👍
 

annabenedetti

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I'm sorry- to refer to "the potential of an insurrection" suggests that it is recognized that what occurred January 6th is only considered to have been an "insurrection" by retarded leftists.

You should be sorry for calling the architect of the Capitol a retarded leftist.

And "thousands of people storming the Capitol" ???

Never happened.

Much as you might like to see it go down the memory hole, it happened.

654 arrests so far.
 
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