Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

annabenedetti

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Photo emerges of Republican barricading chamber doors during US Capitol attack after he compared rioters to ‘tourists’

A photo has emerged of Andrew Clyde, the Republican congressman who claimed “there was no insurrection” and compared US Capitol rioters to “tourists”, barricading the House chamber during the attack.


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UNITED STATES - JANUARY 6: Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., second from top left, helps barricade the House chamber door as rioters disrupt the joint session of Congress to certify the Electoral College vote on January 6, 2021.
 

annabenedetti

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People who get invited in aren't insurrectionists. They're called guests.

Whitewash.

An invitation? What did he say? Not what the megaphone guys said, what did Robishaw say that could be construed as an invitation?

Allow me to provide your neglected context:

Officer Robishaw was attempting to quell the crowd and move them out of the area. Chansley approached Officer Robishaw and screamed, among other things, that this was their house, and that they were there to take the Capitol, and to get Congressional leaders. Chansley also used his bullhorn to communicate that they were there to take out several United States congressmen.

While Officer Robishaw was attempting to quell the crowd, Chansley was using his bullhorn to incite it. Because the Capitol building is cavernous, the sound of Chansley’s voice over the bullhorn carried to different areas of the building. Officer Robishaw could hear reactions from a different group of protestors in a different hallway—being kept back by other officers—when Chansley would yell into the bullhorn. The photograph below depicts their interaction.

Robishaw and other officers calmed the protestors somewhat and directed them to leave the area from the same way they had entered. Most protestors complied, but Chansley disobeyed the order and instead began heading up a different stairwell towards the Senate floor. Officer Robishaw, alone with more than 25 rioters in the Senate Chamber, attempted to engage with Chansley and asked for his assistance to use the bullhorn to get the protestors out of the Chamber. Instead of doing so, Chansley ran up on the dais where Vice President Pence had been presiding just minutes before, and begin posing on the dais for other rioters to document and photograph, and wrote a note to Vice President Pence saying, “it's only a matter of time, justice is coming.”
 
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marke

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“The president was trying to stage a coup. There was little chance of it happening, but there was enough chance that the former defense secretaries had to put out that letter, which was the final nail through that effort. They prevented the military from being involved in any coup attempt. But instead, Trump tried to incite it himself,” said Fiona Hill, Trump’s former top Russia adviser. “This could have turned into a full-blown coup had he had any of those key institutions following him. Just because it failed or didn’t succeed doesn’t mean it wasn’t real.”



Trump Officials Rush to Keep Him From Sparking Another Conflict—at Home or Abroad


High-ranking national-security officials have spent the last 24 hours scrambling to figure out how to keep their commander-in-chief, Donald Trump, from inciting further violence at home, spilling national secrets, or sparking last-minute confrontations with international foes.

The concerns in the upper echelons of the administration’s national-security community range from fears inside the Pentagon that the president will do or say something that effectively throws the U.S. into a military confrontation with another country to anxieties in the intelligence apparatus that Trump will divulge classified intelligence on his way out, according to four officials who spoke with The Daily Beast about the matter. All requested to remain anonymous in order to speak more openly about the discussions.

“This isn’t a hypothetical anymore,” said one senior administration official. “This is real. What happened yesterday changed the calculus. People are concerned about [the president’s] state of mind.”



Much more at the link.


“Yesterday was the worst day for the Republican Party since Lincoln’s assassination.”
— Joe Grogan, Trump’s former top domestic policy adviser
Fiona Hill - the new Ethel Rosenberg democrat socialist-communist spy in the Trump administration. How is it that Hill did not know HunterBiden had been under investigation for his dealings with the Ukrainian mob boss for four years before Schiff and Vindmann invented the fake quid-pro-quo allegation against Trump? Hill was either stupid or lying.
 

marke

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That is what you do when an assorted mob of right and left partisans get rowdy - you bolt the door.
 

marke

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Oh, so you admit that at least some of the crowd were 'right wing partisans'? That's a concession for you. Also, if there was no insurrection as he claimed then why is he among others barricading the door?
I admit there was uncalled-for violence from those on the left as well as those on the right. I do not agree with seditious democrat lies claiming Trump caused a near insurrection. If anyone caused a near insurrection it was the crooked democrats who committed massive voter fraud and then slandered tens of millions of patriotic Americans for calling them out on it.
 

Arthur Brain

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I admit there was uncalled-for violence from those on the left as well as those on the right. I do not agree with seditious democrat lies claiming Trump caused a near insurrection. If anyone caused a near insurrection it was the crooked democrats who committed massive voter fraud and then slandered tens of millions of patriotic Americans for calling them out on it.
There was no such thing as massive voter fraud as the more sensible and realistic in the Republican party are acknowledging. Just baseless allegations that have come to nought. No American, "patriotic" or otherwise has been "slandered" in any way.
 

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There was no such thing as massive voter fraud as the more sensible and realistic in the Republican party are acknowledging. Just baseless allegations that have come to nought. No American, "patriotic" or otherwise has been "slandered" in any way.
IF this were truly about voter fraud, then all of the senate and congressional races would be under a microscope.

None, just counties (with a majority of black voters) are being recounted for the umpteenth time.

Former Guy’s big lie lives on ...
 
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annabenedetti

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Interesting take from the 'QAnon Shaman's' lawyer, Albert Watkins:

Watkins... said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.​
“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all [redacted] short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re [redacted] retarded, they’re on the [redacted] spectrum.”​
“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. [Redacted], they were subjected to four-plus years of [redacted] propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since [redacted] Hitler.”​
Regarding the Trump/Fox propaganda, he's not wrong.
 

marke

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There was no such thing as massive voter fraud as the more sensible and realistic in the Republican party are acknowledging. Just baseless allegations that have come to nought. No American, "patriotic" or otherwise has been "slandered" in any way.
You keep repeating the damnable democrat lie "There was no voter fraud," yet neither you nor anyone else has proven your claim to be true.
 

marke

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IF this were truly about voter fraud, then all of the senate and congressional races would be under a microscope.

None, just counties (with a majority of black voters) are being recounted for the umpteenth time.

Former Guy’s big lie lives on ...
Democrat cultist: "I refuse to believe democrats who support rioting, looting, cop-killing, and violence in the streets would ever commit voter fraud and I totally condemn any real efforts to determine whether voter fraud was committed or not."
 

marke

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Interesting take from the 'QAnon Shaman's' lawyer, Albert Watkins:

Watkins... said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.​
“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all [redacted] short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re [redacted] retarded, they’re on the [redacted] spectrum.”​
“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. [Redacted], they were subjected to four-plus years of [redacted] propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since [redacted] Hitler.”​
Regarding the Trump/Fox propaganda, he's not wrong.
Maybe this quack was the protected 'whistleblower' Schiff kept hidden in his basement? If so, there is no wonder he rises again from the darkened recesses of the democrat underworld to falsely accuse Trump to the delight of democrat demons out to destroy Trump for supporting Christian values and influence in America.
 

Arthur Brain

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You keep repeating the damnable democrat lie "There was no voter fraud," yet neither you nor anyone else has proven your claim to be true.
The burden of proof was on those alleging fraud to prove it and...oh, they couldn't, because there wasn't any. So, it's not a lie at all. Ample opportunity and time has passed for any such evidence to be presented.
 
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