# Does light have a tail?

#### tieman55

##### Member
Does light have a trailing edge or a tail if you will.

If light is instant than the off is just as fast as is the on, and no trailing edge.

If light has a speed then it has a tail.

A method to discover the one-way speed of light.

To find out if light has a speed limit take it past that limit and observe. To get light to appear to move past its limit, if it has one, simply rotate it. If light has a speed limit, as the circumference of the tip of the light grows ever larger, depending on its rotation rate, the angle at which the light appears to progress will continually change, until its max speed when X=Y.

If light does not have a speed limit the light generated arc will always appear at a similar radius/angle and X will never = Y.

If and when the tip of the light that creates the arc, is appearing to progress at a 45-degree angle to its path, you are at its max speed. X=Y are moving at the same rate.

One of many configurations in finding the one-way speed of light, may be done easiest in space: SEE PDF ONE WAY LIGHT SPEED.

Configure three satellites. One at the center and two at a radius. Rotate a laser on a center satellite, and use the two satellites at the radius as targets. The targets are 49.85- and 45.85-kilometers radius and they are 4.8 degrees apart. This geometry will give you a 45-degree angle between the two satellites targets from the mean radius tangent of 47.85 KM.

It is believed that it takes light about .0001663 seconds to go 49.85 KM. in space.

Run the test, based on the believed speed of light:

Rotate and fire the laser: The light is traveling to satellite #2 and will be there in .0001663 sec., with the rotation of the laser at 1000 rev/per/sec it takes .0000134 sec to rotate the entire 4.8 degrees between the two satellites and at that point the light is then traveling at the satellite #3.

Conventional belief light travel times

49.85 KM in .000166281 sec
45.85 KM in .000152939 sec
.000013342 sec difference
Rotational speed to travel 4.8 degrees in .000013342 sec = 999.35 rev / sec

At the above rotational speed of 999.7 rev/sec the light would hit the two satellites at the same moment, if the light is traveling at 299,792 KM/sec

Examples of other speeds:

Light at instant speed can never hit both satellites at the same time, as the light is rotating and has no tail.

Light at 250,000 KM/ sec
49.85 KM in .0001994
45.85 KM in .0001834
.0000160 difference, if the speed of light is 250,000 KM/sec you would have to have the rotation of 4.8 degrees in .000016 sec or 833 rev/sec, to hit both satellites at the same moment.

Light at 350,000 KM/ sec
49.85 KM in .00014242
45.85 KM in .00013
.00001242 difference, if the speed of light was 350,000 KM/sec you would have the rotation of 4.8 degrees in .00001241 sec. 1074 rev/sec
to hit the two targets at the same moment.

Observations

The two satellites are at a base distance of 4 km apart and the apparent path of the light is about 5.665 KM apart. The tip will appear to travel 5.665 KM in .0000134 or 1.41 times the believed speed of light. But in reality, the light is traveling 4 km less than satellite #2. In the PDF is the actual light path, if the speed of light is as thought, the path is shown in the cross hatched line. At two angles, one at the speed of light and one just below, with less that a 45 degree angle to its base.

If light is instant, the light will hit the first satellite at go, and the second satellite always at the rotational speed, no more no less, and can't hit them both at the same time. Rotation speed and the speed between the two satellites will always be the same. If light is instant, then the off is as instant as the on, it has no tail.

The light, if traveling at 299,792, will hit both satellites at the same time, if not then adjust the rotation speed and or the distance(s) until that happens and then calculate the speed of light.

A clock is installed to time differential between the satellite target impacts, so the rotational speed can easily be adjusted and tuned to the speed needed to hit the two in zero time. Once that is achieved the clock is no longer needed.

At the instant you fire the laser for a millisecond you at the same time are recording and entering into the equation the exact distances and angles to the target satellites. It would be extremely accurate, down to a millimeter.

I chose to use 47.85 KM as the radius as that is very close to the speed of light at 1000 Revs per second. 47.85 x 2 x (p) 3.1417 x 1000/ sec = 300,660 KM/sec to the median circumference. 1000 Rev./sec is easily achievable, especially in space, the laser doesn't have to rotate 360 degrees, it only has to move the 4.8 degrees in the allotted times and or adjustable times. The laser only has to fire for a millisecond, so it could be a very high-powered laser. Of course this could be done on land just more expensive.

This method eliminates the current objections to the use of clocks. The Einsteinian arguments against clocks are two-fold, one is syncing two clocks at different locations and the second is using one clock in a round trip, starting and stopping the same clock. The objection in the latter is not an objection to clocks / time it is only an objection to it being a round trip voyage. Which I believe is problematic.

In both those objected to efforts above, the clocks measure an amount of time of light travel. In the above proposed method, there is one clock that measures the rotational speed of the rotating laser, which measures degrees/per/sec. That clock in no way measures any distance in time of light. Another clock is used to tune the rotating laser to discover the one-way speed of light. Once the tune is complete the clock does not measure time. No current objection would apply to the above method. Math is used to discover the speed in space of light, not a clock.

Perhaps far more interesting, if light does have a limit, then some light, if it has enough energy, it is rotating and is from a distant place, is getting to earth appearing to us at an a 45 degree angle, or if you will, a shift.

This makes sense to me, that is why I am putting it out there to see if and where I have it wrong, any and all input is appreciated, however if your comments are no substantive, please refrain from commenting, Thanks Mike

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#### Clete

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Why rotate a laser?

Why not simply have two lasers, each pointing at their respective satellites and fire the one with the further target .000013342 seconds before the other?

Actually, there is a really good reason why you wouldn't do that....

The reason is because it wouldn't matter. Either way, you'd have to have a clock on board all three satellites, which means you'd have to synchronize them in order to take your measurement and then you're into trouble with moving clocks and relativity and all the various reasons why they've known for over a century that there isn't any way to measure the one way speed of light. It is quite impossible because in order to measure the one way speed of light you'd have to synchronize your clocks but in order to synchronize your clocks, you have to know the one way speed of light.

For those who like videos, there's only one video anyone need watch to understand why this is the case...

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