ECT Dispensationalism Defined

[tetelestai]

Then of course there's hyper dispensationalism with it's invention of a class system. The lesser being those in the kingdom of God (a made up earthly kingdom of slaves), and the kingdom of heaven (for the elite heavenly country club people).

Don't forget STP's third group of people. They inherit a city. They are different than the earthly kingdom slaves and the heavenly country club people that he claims will exist at the same time as his city people.

Check out his signature for more details.

That's the problem with Dispensationalism. They have to keep making up stuff and adding stuff to it every time they find something wrong with Darby's original theories.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Don't forget STP's third group of people. They inherit a city. They are different than the earthly kingdom slaves and the heavenly country club people that he claims will exist at the same time as his city people.

Check out his signature for more details.

That's the problem with Dispensationalism. They have to keep making up stuff and adding stuff to it every time they find something wrong with Darby's original theories.

you can find all three in the Bible, you just choose to splain it away

 

[tetelestai]

To me, there is little difference between Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Penticostals, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's witnesses and Dispensationalists....

Correct!

They all were invented in the mid 1800's during "the age of the cults"

Joseph Smith, John Nelson Darby, Charles Taze Russell, Ellen White, and Mary Baker Eddy were all contemporaries.

Darby invented Dispensationalism.

 

[tetelestai]

you can find all three in the Bible, you just choose to splain it away

I can find Jesus described as a lamb, a cornerstone, and a vine, but I'm smart enough to not list three different Jesus' in my signature.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I can find Jesus described as a lamb, a cornerstone, and a vine, but I'm smart enough to not list three different Jesus' in my signature.

Well, there is a literal third heaven, a literal earth, and a city that comes down from a literal heaven that you have to deal with.

I accept them.

 

[StanJ]

So if we call ourselves STEWARDSHIPISTS, then you'll be cool with it?
What a sophist you are!

No, I already showed what the TWO connotations were. You're the one being specious here.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Then of course there's hyper dispensationalism with it's invention of a class system. The lesser being those in the kingdom of God (a made up earthly kingdom of slaves), and the kingdom of heaven (for the elite heavenly country club people).

Is it okay with you if God chooses to keep some of his saved and resurrected people on the earth, some in heaven, and some in a city so that the entire universe is filled with his people?

Or does he need to ask you if you think it's just ,first?

 

[tetelestai]

Well, there is a literal third heaven

Ok

a literal earth

OK

and a city that comes down from a literal heaven

Ok

that you have to deal with.

What's there to deal with?

There's nothing about three different places in eternity.

I accept them.

No, you made up that three different groups of believers will spend eternity in three different places so that your hyper-Dispensationalism works out.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

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What's there to deal with?

There's nothing about three different places in eternity.



No, you made up that three different groups of believers will spend eternity in three different places so that your hyper-Dispensationalism works out.

The Bible mentions people dwelling in all three places, for ever.

I accept it.

I don't have the right to make them all three the same place.

 

[andyc]

Don't forget STP's third group of people. They inherit a city. They are different than the earthly kingdom slaves and the heavenly country club people that he claims will exist at the same time as his city people.

Check out his signature for more details.

That's the problem with Dispensationalism. They have to keep making up stuff and adding stuff to it every time they find something wrong with Darby's original theories.

Yeah it's obvious to most, that they are searching for every convenience possible for the group they have invented and have associated with (heavenly class). Searching through scripture trying to identify the two different classes, is nothing but a distraction to the more significant issues that the bible talks about.
Hyper dispensationalism, and it's less ugly older brother is all about the pursuit of knowledge and self congratulation.
Find some supposed hidden detail that shows a distinction between the two classes of saints, and then receive congratulation from like minded people (John 5:44).

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Yeah it's obvious to most, that they are searching for every convenience possible for the group they have invented and have associated with (heavenly class). Searching through scripture trying to identify the two different classes, is nothing but a distraction to the more significant issues that the bible talks about.
Hyper dispensationalism, and it's less ugly older brother is all about the pursuit of knowledge and self congratulation.
Find some supposed hidden detail that shows a distinction between the two classes of saints, and then receive congratulation from like minded people (John 5:44).

Oh.

 

[andyc]

Is it okay with you if God chooses to keep some of his saved and resurrected people on the earth, some in heaven, and some in a city so that the entire universe is filled with his people?

Or does he need to ask you if you think it's just ,first?

It's very significant. Because by identifying physical people on earth, you are glorifying the flesh. The very thing that the New Testament is out to end. It is it's main purpose in fact.

 

[john w]

Don't forget STP's third group of people. They inherit a city. They are different than the earthly kingdom slaves and the heavenly country club people that he claims will exist at the same time as his city people.

Check out his signature for more details.

That's the problem with Dispensationalism. They have to keep making up stuff and adding stuff to it every time they find something wrong with Darby's original theories.

Don't forget this lie, amongst many, by Craigie:

Tet: "The LORD Jesus Christ returned in the form of a Roman Army." "-STP

"Never said that."-Tet.



You lied-again. That is your MO/"ministry" on TOL-habitual lying.


"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread

"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie

"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.





You are so obsessed with us meanie MAD-ists, you can't keep track of all your lies, spin.


That's the problem with AD 70-ism/Preterism. They have to keep making up stuff and adding stuff to it every time they find something wrong with J. Stuart Russell's original theories.

 

[andyc]

Oh.

Come on, STP.
If it's convenient, its for the BOC.

Coincidence?

You know it's not.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Come on, STP.
If it's convenient, its for the BOC.

Coincidence?

You know it's not.

:kookoo:

Be thankful you are living in the dispensation of the grace of God. And, stop fighting it.

Most people have not, and will not in the future.

 

[tetelestai]

Most people have not, and will not in the future.

Is this when you claim there will be animal sacrifices for sin atonement again?

 

[andyc]

:kookoo:

Be thankful you are living in the dispensation of the grace of God. And, stop fighting it.

Most people have not, and will not in the future.

Yep, the law is ended. Now we simply believe and inherit the righteousness of God. The dispensation of grace is awesome, and Jesus introduced it to the Jew first.

 

[tetelestai]

Yeah it's obvious to most, that they are searching for every convenience possible for the group they have invented and have associated with (heavenly class).

That's what Darby taught them.

Darby taught that the country club "Heavenly class" of people will be secretly raptured away, and then the kingdom slaves will have to go back to sacrificing animals again for sin atonement.

 

[tetelestai]

The dispensation of grace is awesome, and Jesus introduced it to the Jew first.

They can't accept that.

First they have to make the dispensation of grace a time period, then they have to have Paul as member #1 in the special group in the secret parenthetical time period.

 

[andyc]

That's what Darby taught them.

Darby taught that the country club "Heavenly class" of people will be secretly raptured away, and then the kingdom slaves will have to go back to sacrificing animals again for sin atonement.

It's all about creating an elite class, isn't it?
I believe it was Charles Taze Russel who was also sucked into dispensationalism that was becoming more and more prevalent in the brethren denomination. And I believe it was he who also created a slave class distinction. The earthly class (JWs who have to work to be saved), and the elite 144,000 who rule over them.

Dispensationalism is an elitist teaching, isn't it?
And I think it's one of the first signs to look for in a cult.