Covid Vaccination: I'm getting my first dose on Thursday

chair

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It took a half hour on the phone, but I managed to get an appointment for this Thursday, Dec. 24. Second dose Jan. 14.

Anybody else lined up for this?
 

Rusha

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Not yet, but I will be calling Monday. Admittedly, I am more apprehensive about this vaccine than most others.
 

ffreeloader

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Well, we will see how long you live. The list of harmful substances in these vaccines is growing, and so is the list of negative reactions. Hope you enjoy having your dna rewritten by someone as sleazy as Bill Gates. One positive thing for you is you're all old enough to not be affected by becoming sterile. If you were young it might be kinda a big deal to you.

Oh, btw, I'll never sign up for this. I have something that keep me from getting it and it causes zero side effects.
 

chair

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Well, we will see how long you live. The list of harmful substances in these vaccines is growing, and so is the list of negative reactions. Hope you enjoy having your dna rewritten by someone as sleazy as Bill Gates. One positive thing for you is you're all old enough to not be affected by becoming sterile. If you were young it might be kinda a big deal to you.

Oh, btw, I'll never sign up for this. I have something that keep me from getting it and it causes zero side effects.
Wow. I didn't realize just how far gone you are.

Over 100,000 people here have signed up for the vaccine here- in 1 day. I expect most Americans will too, though it will take longer to get organized.
 

ffreeloader

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Wow. I didn't realize just how far gone you are.

Over 100,000 people here have signed up for the vaccine here- in 1 day. I expect most Americans will too, though it will take longer to get organized.
LOL. The person that's "far gone" is you. I can't help how much of an unthinking sheep you are. There are multiple products that will keep a person from getting the coronavirus. I'll never be one of the unthinking sleepwalking sheep.
 

ffreeloader

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Here is some more peace of mind for those who have already scheduled getting vaccinated. Basic safety testing has been ignored in the current, and the past, coronavirus vaccines.

A highly credentialed research scientist has called out vaccine producers for failing to implement basic safety standards, warning that “21% of people are having serious adverse events from this vaccine.”

 

chair

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Here is some more peace of mind for those who have already scheduled getting vaccinated. Basic safety testing has been ignored in the current, and the past, coronavirus vaccines.



As usual, the actual data doesn't support this gentleman's claims.

Who is a sheep here?
 

ffreeloader

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As usual, the actual data doesn't support this gentleman's claims.

Who is a sheep here?
Here's more evidence that you didn't even read the study you pointed me to. In fact it's the same study the article I used pointed to. You didn't know that either because you didn't even bother to read the article or look at the evidence. All you're doing is exposing your own ignorance.

The report was published on December 17, 2020. At the end of the report here is what it says:
Study mRNA-1273-P201 is an ongoing phase 2a, randomized, observer-blind, placebo-controlled, dose-confirmation study to evaluate the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of mRNA-1273 in healthy adults 18 years and older. The study enrolled 600 participants, consisting of 300 participants 18 to <55 years old and 300 participants 55 years and older, who were randomized equally to receive either 2 doses of 50ug of mRNA-1273, 100ug of mRNA-1273, or saline placebo given 28 days apart. Participants will be followed for safety and immunogenicity for 12 months post last
Only 600 total initial guinea pigs were used to start the study. They are expanding that number by using you and people like you. Do you really think that a 600 person study is a sufficient number of people to show all the side effects that will show up from something that rewrites human dna? Are you really that ignorant?

Oops. It is an ongoing randomized study to evaluate the safety of the vaccine. And that was said 4 days ago.

The other fact you missed is there are zero references to any animal studies in the report. They simply do not exist. All it speaks to are human studies. Another big oops for you.

So, you're a test guinea pig. You know, I don't think pharma companies place much value on your life or your health. But, you know it all. Go ahead and be a guinea pig.

Did you know that among nurses a full 40% of them say no to being vaccinated? How is it that people inside the medical community show such distrust? Ahhh. That doesn't give you any pause. And did you know that one hospital stopped giving the vaccine after 4 of their employees had reactions serious enough to put them in the hospital and be treated? And did you know that I hold the majority position in the US on whether or not to take the vaccine? Yup. 51% of us say no. You're in the minority. So, in effect when you say I'm "gone" you're saying the majority of the people in the US are "gone"? Pretty arrogant of you.
 

chair

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Here's more evidence that you didn't even read the study you pointed me to. In fact it's the same study the article I used pointed to. You didn't know that either because you didn't even bother to read the article or look at the evidence. All you're doing is exposing your own ignorance.

The report was published on December 17, 2020. At the end of the report here is what it says:

Only 600 total initial guinea pigs were used to start the study. They are expanding that number by using you and people like you. Do you really think that a 600 person study is a sufficient number of people to show all the side effects that will show up from something that rewrites human dna? Are you really that ignorant?

Oops. It is an ongoing randomized study to evaluate the safety of the vaccine. And that was said 4 days ago.

The other fact you missed is there are zero references to any animal studies in the report. They simply do not exist. All it speaks to are human studies. Another big oops for you.

So, you're a test guinea pig. You know, I don't think pharma companies place much value on your life or your health. But, you know it all. Go ahead and be a guinea pig.

Did you know that among nurses a full 40% of them say no to being vaccinated? How is it that people inside the medical community show such distrust? Ahhh. That doesn't give you any pause. And did you know that one hospital stopped giving the vaccine after 4 of their employees had reactions serious enough to put them in the hospital and be treated? And did you know that I hold the majority position in the US on whether or not to take the vaccine? Yup. 51% of us say no. You're in the minority. So, in effect when you say I'm "gone" you're saying the majority of the people in the US are "gone"? Pretty arrogant of you.
That was the phase 2 study...."The EUA request includes safety and efficacy data from an ongoing Phase 3 randomized, double-blinded and placebo-controlled trial of mRNA-1273 in approximately 30,400 participants."

Stop cherry picking data and you'll be a wiser man.
 

ffreeloader

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That was the phase 2 study...."The EUA request includes safety and efficacy data from an ongoing Phase 3 randomized, double-blinded and placebo-controlled trial of mRNA-1273 in approximately 30,400 participants."

Stop cherry picking data and you'll be a wiser man.
Really? They randomly, double-blindedly, and placebolically studied 30,400 people in 4 days. Wow. That is thorough. A four day test. That long of study must have found every possible problem with the vaccine. Hey. And if they studied it for 3 days they could have implemented every change needed in the vaccine in 12 hours and still had another 12 hours to test all 30,400 participants again.
 

chair

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Really? They randomly, double-blindedly, and placebolically studied 30,400 people in 4 days. Wow. That is thorough. A four day test. That long of study must have found every possible problem with the vaccine. Hey. And if they studied it for 3 days they could have implemented every change needed in the vaccine in 12 hours and still had another 12 hours to test all 30,400 participants again.
So, Mr. careful reader: Where do you see a "4 day test"?
 

ffreeloader

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So, Mr. careful reader: Where do you see a "4 day test"?
LOL. Where did I read it? The report itself was published on December 17, 2020. You didn't even read the front page? It's self-description was what I quoted to you and you said what is going on now is different. So, it is now 4 days since that report was published and leaves only those days for the current study to be taking place.

Don't you love getting your own medicine? You've been on this forum for quite some time and everything that was shown to you was dismissed as a "conspiracy theory", lie, etc.... You wouldn't even read the reports. You'd just go find some conspiracy theory the press created to deny what was said. And that was the sum of your "research".

Oh, Oh, Trump said to drink bleach. Yeah, someone able to build billions of dollars in wealth is so stupid they are going to recommend that people drink bleach. You're ridiculous assumption of Trump's stupidity is so stupid it can't be anything but deliberate. You've acted exactly like a leftist political activist. Ignore everything you don't want to hear and just repeat the same mantra ad nauseum. You were shown exactly what Trump was speaking about and had shown you how ultraviolet light has been used as a disinfectant for decades but ignored everything in your eagerness to repeat purely stupid lies. And then you complain when you're treated exactly as you have treated people here? You haven't seriously looked at anything that's ever been posted here that disagrees with your perceptions of reality.

[Chair] Oh, I'm thinking about going elsewhere because people don't take what I say seriously. [/Chair] Well, when the shoe fits wear it. You haven't bothered to research anything. Whatever the mockingbird media tells you is your reality and you're not about to challenge anything they say to you. Yet it's been demonstrated here time and time again the deliberately manufactured lies they've told you. [Chair]But, oh, no. Can't listen to that because it would challenge my entire way of thinking.[/Chair] The amount of evidence shown you has been massive, but you have never looked at any of it with an open mind. Meaning of course, shown no respect to anyone with whom you've interacted with as you've never even opened your mind to the idea that there might be something you don't know.

Hilltrot told you very concisely what the problem is. Did you even consider what he said?

You're just such a victim.
 

chair

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LOL. Where did I read it? The report itself was published on December 17, 2020. You didn't even read the front page? It's self-description was what I quoted to you and you said what is going on now is different. So, it is now 4 days since that report was published and leaves only those days for the current study to be taking place.

Don't you love getting your own medicine? You've been on this forum for quite some time and everything that was shown to you was dismissed as a "conspiracy theory", lie, etc.... You wouldn't even read the reports. You'd just go find some conspiracy theory the press created to deny what was said. And that was the sum of your "research".

Oh, Oh, Trump said to drink bleach. Yeah, someone able to build billions of dollars in wealth is so stupid they are going to recommend that people drink bleach. You're ridiculous assumption of Trump's stupidity is so stupid it can't be anything but deliberate. You've acted exactly like a leftist political activist. Ignore everything you don't want to hear and just repeat the same mantra ad nauseum. You were shown exactly what Trump was speaking about and had shown you how ultraviolet light has been used as a disinfectant for decades but ignored everything in your eagerness to repeat purely stupid lies. And then you complain when you're treated exactly as you have treated people here? You haven't seriously looked at anything that's ever been posted here that disagrees with your perceptions of reality.

[Chair] Oh, I'm thinking about going elsewhere because people don't take what I say seriously. [/Chair] Well, when the shoe fits wear it. You haven't bothered to research anything. Whatever the mockingbird media tells you is your reality and you're not about to challenge anything they say to you. Yet it's been demonstrated here time and time again the deliberately manufactured lies they've told you. [Chair]But, oh, no. Can't listen to that because it would challenge my entire way of thinking.[/Chair] The amount of evidence shown you has been massive, but you have never looked at any of it with an open mind. Meaning of course, shown no respect to anyone with whom you've interacted with as you've never even opened your mind to the idea that there might be something you don't know.

Hilltrot told you very concisely what the problem is. Did you even consider what he said?

You're just such a victim.

The study took place over many months. It is a continuing study- they are still following up on the subjects. So yes- it has been 4 days since it was published- but so what?

Yes, people should research seriously. And yes, some people don't bother to do that, and write stupid posts. And yes- you should look in the mirror.

I doubt that you are naturally stupid, but you've adopted stupid behavior to protect your ridiculous ideas.

Have a nice day.
 

Hilltrot

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This the is study I think people are looking for. The NEJM is nice enough to provide the article for free.

NEJMoa2034577

Overall, one still has to trust the researchers and U.S./German Corporation. I can try to find the Moderna vaccination information if anyone wants.
 

ffreeloader

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I don't think Moderna has published, yet.

The following link doesn't really mean anything. It's basically the minutes to a bureaucratic meeting.

These pharma companies are flat out evil. They have carte blanche to create vaccines. They face no consequences from anything they create. And there hasn't been any safety testing of vaccines in this country since the mid 80's.

Larry Klayman, with one of the organizations he created, forced the government agency responsible for making sure vaccines are safety tested to admit in a court of law that there is no evidence in any of their files that any vaccine since then has ever been safety tested. It took him years of lawsuits to get the admission and a federal judge to repeatedly order the agency to respond to FOIA requests from him to get the results, but he proved there has been no safety testing of vaccines for decades.

So trust them? I'd rather trust the mob.
 
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