Church of Holy Sepulchre - Complete History

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Take a journey through time and see the complete history of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre from Christ's crucifixion to the present. See why it is indeed the true and authentic place where Jesus died, was buried, and rose again to pay for the sins of the world. Learn about the construction of the church and the destructions and renovations that have been done to it throughout the ages.

 

chair

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It's an interesting church- I've been there. It's very difficult to know for sure that it's the correct site, since it was identified a few centuries after the events took place. Still, it's the traditional site, and worth visiting (when COVID is finally over). If you go- look for the famous status quo ladder.
 

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I went there in 1965, when most of Jerusalem was in Jordan, including the Holy Sepulchre. I went again in 2008, but there were more restrictions. This time we were also shown the Garden Tomb, which seemed to be more in line with the biblical description. Our guide said, you make up your own mind.

We were shown wells in the city, when you looked down maybe four or five meters, this was where the roads were during the time of Christ. Our guide showed us two possible sites for the 'upper room of the last supper'. The first was an upstairs room above the Tomb of David, and this made sense because Jesus was of the line of David. The second site was in a cellar, and this made sense when you take into account where the road would have been 2000 years ago. It could have been neither site, but you make up your own mind.

The only place near Jerusalem that I felt we might have walked in christ's footsteps, was in the Garden of Gethsemane. The olive trees are said to be over two thousand years old.
 

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It's an interesting church- I've been there. It's very difficult to know for sure that it's the correct site, since it was identified a few centuries after the events took place. Still, it's the traditional site, and worth visiting (when COVID is finally over). If you go- look for the famous status quo ladder.

Considering the hurricane of events that surrounded Jesus, I think it is fair to assume that generations remembered where he was crucified and continued to visit the spot, and that St. Helena was likely given pretty good information when she went there and made inquiries.

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I went there in 1965, when most of Jerusalem was in Jordan, including the Holy Sepulchre. I went again in 2008, but there were more restrictions. This time we were also shown the Garden Tomb, which seemed to be more in line with the biblical description. Our guide said, you make up your own mind.

I think the garden tomb is in part a backlash of sorts. Protestants are not comfortable with the orthodox and catholic adornments and statues and worships that go on in the Church. And as relative "newbies" they also do not share in joint administration of the Church. Therefore I think that the garden tombs is sort of another repeat of the 16t century protestant revolt. My personal opinion.

We were shown wells in the city, when you looked down maybe four or five meters, this was where the roads were during the time of Christ. Our guide showed us two possible sites for the 'upper room of the last supper'. The first was an upstairs room above the Tomb of David, and this made sense because Jesus was of the line of David. The second site was in a cellar, and this made sense when you take into account where the road would have been 2000 years ago. It could have been neither site, but you make up your own mind.

The only place near Jerusalem that I felt we might have walked in christ's footsteps, was in the Garden of Gethsemane. The olive trees are said to be over two thousand years old.

That all sounds awesome. I will go someday.
 

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St. Helena

St. Helena was the mother of Emperor Constantine the Great and an Empress of the Roman Empire. Very little is known about Helena's early life, but it is believed she is from Drepanum (later known as Helenopolis) in Asia Minor and born into a poor family and lower class in the Roman culture of the day. St. Ambrose described Helena as a "good stable-maid."

Despite her background, Helena married Constantius Chlorus. With him she birthed her only son, Constantine. around the year 274. Nearly two decades later in 292, Constantius, now co-Regent of the West, got swept up in his rising stature and divorced Helena for Theodora, the step-daughter of Emperor Maximinianus Herculius. It is believed he did this to advance his own reputation and advance his standing in the Roman society.

Constantine was forever loyal to his dear mother, whom he loved very much. As he grew and became a member of the inner circle, he never left Helena's side. Following the death of Constantius in 308, Constantine became Emperor and summoned his mother back into inner circle and the imperial court. Helena received the title of Augusta.

Constantine ordered all to honor his mother. He even had coins minted, bearing her image. Through her son's influence, Helena began to embrace Christianity. With her title of Augusta Imperatrix, Helena was given free reign over the imperial treasury. She was tasked with locating relics of Christian tradition.

Between the years 326-328, Helena took a trip to the Holy Places in the Middle East. During her journey, Helena had many churches constructed, including the one at the site of Jesus Christ's birth - the Church of the Nativity, Bethlehem and another at the site of his ascension - Church of Eleona on the Mount of Olives.

During this time Jerusalem was still being rebuilt after Titus' destruction. Around the year 130, Emperor Hadrian had a temple built over the site of Jesus' death. This temple was believed to be dedicated to Venus. Helena had this temple destroyed and chose a site in this location to be excavated. This led to the discovery of three crosses.

Tradition says Helena brought a woman near death to the crosses. There she had the woman place a hand on all three crosses. Nothing happened when she touched the first two crosses, but when she placed her hand on the third cross she suddenly recovered. Helena declared the third cross to be the True Cross. At this site, Constantine ordered the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to be built.

Theodoret of Cyrus, an influential theologian, wrote that that during her search, Helena also discovered the nails of the crucifixion. She had one of the nails placed in Constantine's helmet and one in the bridle of his horse to aid him with their miraculous powers. Churches were built at these sites, as well.

Several of the relics believed to be found by St. Helena are located in Cyprus. Among these are parts of Jesus' tunic, pieces of the holy cross, and pieces of the rope used to tie Jesus to the cross. When Helena returned to Rome from Jerusalem in 327, she brought parts of the True Cross back with her. She stored these in her palace's chapel. They can still be seen to this day, though her palace has been converted to the Basilica of the Holy Cross in Jerusalem.

St. Helena died around 330 with her dearly devoted son by her side. She was then buried in the Mausoleum of Helena outside of Rome. Her sarcophagus can be seen in the Pio-Clementine Vatican Museum.

St. Helena was renowned for helping not only individuals, but entire communities through her works of charity. She often sought out to help the poor and destitute. She would visit churches and leave them with rich donations. St. Helena was a very devout servant of God, so much so that one would easily believe her to have been a follower of Jesus Christ from birth. Through her influence and work, Christianity continued to spread throughout the known world.

St. Helena is the patron saint of new discoveries and her feast day is celebrated on August 18.

 

chair

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Considering the hurricane of events that surrounded Jesus, I think it is fair to assume that generations remembered where he was crucified and continued to visit the spot, and that St. Helena was likely given pretty good information when she went there and made inquiries.
Maybe. Like I said- it's hard to know. How many followers did Jesus have in his own lifetime? Not many, I think.
 

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How many followers did Jesus have in his own lifetime? Not many, I think.

Enough though I think. In fact, before the gentiles started believing in big numbers, when his followers were still Jews, they became known as another sect, the Nazarenes. You had the Sadducees, the Essenes, the Pharisees, and so on . . .and you had the Nazarenes.

Wiki says:

The Nazarenes (or Nazoreans; Greek: Ναζωραῖοι, Nazōraioi) were an early Christian sect in first-century Judaism. The first use of the term is found in the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 24:5) of the New Testament, where Paul the Apostle is accused of being a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes ("πρωτοστάτην τε τῆς τῶν Ναζωραίων αἱρέσεως") before the Roman procurator Antonius Felix at Caesarea Maritima by Tertullus. At that time, the term simply designated followers of Jesus of Nazareth, as the Hebrew term נוֹצְרִי‎ (nôṣrî), and the Arabic term نصاري still do.​
As time passed, the term came to refer to a sect of Jewish Christians who continued to observe the Torah, in contrast to Gentile Christians who eschewed Torah observance. They are described by Epiphanius of Salamis and are mentioned later by Jerome and Augustine of Hippo. The writers made a distinction between the Nazarenes of their time and the "Nazarenes" mentioned in Acts 24:5.​

Also, since that area is so small by today's standards, even just a few hundred followers would have been plenty to keep the Holy Sites active with visitors.
 
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