ECT As a man, could Jesus have uniquely "human" and "God" experiences?

jamie

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Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me? the words that I speak
unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father
that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works
.
John 14:10

Yes, the Father did the works through Jesus, Jesus could do nothing of himself.
 

steko

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If Jesus as flesh and blood was God why could he not do miracles, wonders, and signs?


Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
 

beameup

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Yes, the Father did the works through Jesus, Jesus could do nothing of himself.

Not so. He turned water into wine, at the behest of his mother, prior to entering his ministry to Israel.
He chose to submit himself to his Father and allow the Father to do the miracles through him and
"put words in his mouth" so to speak.
 

jamie

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Not so. He turned water into wine, at the behest of his mother, prior to entering his ministry to Israel.
He chose to submit himself to his Father and allow the Father to do the miracles through him and
"put words in his mouth" so to speak.

I'm just going by what he said, but I'm not saying you need to believe him. Most people don't.
 

beameup

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I'm just going by what he said, but I'm not saying you need to believe him. Most people don't.

Even though He, Himself, could do "miracles", He chose not to,
preferring to allow the Father to do "miracles" through Him.
Believers also allow God to do "miracles" through us.

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be asserted, but emptied Himself [set-aside his privileges] taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

Being found
[finding himself] in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. - Philippians 2:5-8
 

jamie

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Even though He, Himself, could do "miracles", He chose not to,
preferring to allow the Father to do "miracles" through Him.
Believers also allow God to do "miracles" through us.

He said he could do nothing of himself, and neither can we.
 

beameup

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He said he could do nothing of himself, and neither can we.

He said he didn't do anything (ie: miracles) of himself.
He purposely chose not to, even though he could have.
Afterall, He created the universe. And, He turned water into wine "before His time".

And being found in fashion as a man,
he humbled himself,
and became obedient
[to the Father]
unto death, even the death of the cross. - Phil 2:8
 

beameup

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Right, he said it was the Father who did the miracles.
Jesus was a man like all other men.

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power
-- Colossians 2:8-10
 

COGTHW

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So Jesus was not God, no more than you or I are? The biological son of God, but not God?


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Jesus is 100% that true God.
1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
the bible say this is that true God.
 

1Mind1Spirit

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Yes, the Father did the works through Jesus, Jesus could do nothing of himself.

:thumb:

John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
 

1Mind1Spirit

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Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power
-- Colossians 2:8-10


The word Godhead is a bad translation.

There is no such thing as a Godhead.

http://www.simplebibletruths.net/Godhead.htm
 
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