Are you ready to take Islam serious? Part 2.

Arthur Brain

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Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.

On what reasoning? Sending a nuke attack into Mecca is completely unjustified and out of curiosity, have you ever seen "Threads"? Or even "The Day After"? Nuclear war is insane. the MAD acronym is so apt.

I certainly don't support executing gays.

Fair enough on that, I didn't think that you did along with GM although the fact remains, plenty of your far right brethren do.

Those are two totally different things.

Sure they are although they're both extreme positions and ones that no moderate or rational person would advocate.
 

The Barbarian

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Depends on which sect of Muslims they happen to be. Or maybe they just want freedom for everyone. Something like that.

Let's hear some examples.

Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas. Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas. Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.

Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.

In the U.S., American Muslims are slightly less likely than Americans in general to advocate violence as a legitimate religious, social or poltical tactic.

In fact, Pew found that not only are Muslim-Americans increasingly anxious about Islamic extremism, they are also more likely than other Americans to say that violence can never be justified.
More than 8 in 10 American Muslims said they were at least somewhat concerned about global extremism in the name of Islam, a 10 percentage point increase from 2011, when Pew conducted a similar study.
Nearly 3 in 4 said there is little if any support for extremism among American Muslims. Just 6% said there is a great deal of support for it, and 11% said there is a "fair amount."
Likewise, more than 75% of American Muslims say violence can never be justified to further a religious, social or political cause. That's compared to 59% of Americans overall who said the same.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew-muslim-american-survey/index.html

So in that respect, at least, they are slightly more American than the average American. Keep in mind, American Muslims are not necessarily representative of all Muslims in the world. Many of them grew up here, accepting our culture of law and freedom, and others came here specifically because of that culture.
 

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Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas.

For what?

Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas.
For what?

Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.
For what. for what, for what?

Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.
For what?
 

The Barbarian

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For what?

For what?

For what. for what, for what?

For what?

Pretty much for the same reasons evil people everywhere abuse people of faith.

They want to force them to believe what they believe. Why do you think persecuted Muslims came to this country? Same reason my ancestors (and probably yours too) came to this country.

That's why American Muslims are less supportive of violence as a means of social, political, or religious change then most Americans are.
 
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