Are police trigger happy?

finalpoet

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I don't think so, it's just a few raw eggs, and the media is presenting them to the world. So it seems like every officer is bad. What do you think?

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I don't think so, it's just a few raw eggs, and the media is presenting them to the world. So it seems like every officer is bad. What do you think?

Here's the problem with the cops.
There's so many of them. You have State, County, And City Police. And when they shoot someone and kill them they investigate themselves and decide they didn't do anything wrong. We need uniform oversight with an adversarial relationship and transparency. We need body cams getting published immediately. What possible reason could there be for with holding body cam footage for week or months? It's footage of what happened. No need to wonder or get all worked up when we can all see what went down.

Body cams on all cops at all times. Period.

There ARE bad cops and corrupt departments. We need to see someone do their job and take down a whole department every once in a while.
We need to put African American Federal agents in bait cars and have them drive thru affluent neighborhoods. If they get pulled over for driving while black and the cop steps outa line then the whole thing should be on TV that night.

We need more cops getting outed for stupid social media posts.

We need to teach people how to interact with police. When the police say you're coming with them you're coming with them. Most of the stuff on their belt is tools to make you come with them. You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Here's the problem with the cops.

First tell us your experiences with police officers, i.e. how many times you've been stopped by one for a traffic infraction or perhaps criminal related offenses. People like you have a history with law enforcement and in order to talk about the police objectively, those that have a hidden agenda need to be exposed.

There's so many of them. You have State, County, And City Police.

Yes, each jurisdiction has it's own law enforcement dept., which means that those officers are held accountable by the respective City, County and State agency (and the people of those jurisdictions). Wouldn't you rather go to city hall and complain about the actions of a particular officer then go through the massive red tape of a federal bureaucracy?

And when they shoot someone and kill them they investigate themselves and decide they didn't do anything wrong.

"They" meaning another law enforcement agency, specifically a group of men and women who know if dept. protocol was followed and specifically if any State and Federal laws were broken by the officer involved.

We need uniform oversight with an adversarial relationship and transparency. We need body cams getting published immediately. What possible reason could there be for with holding body cam footage for week or months? It's footage of what happened. No need to wonder or get all worked up when we can all see what went down.

Body cams on all cops at all times. Period.

There ARE bad cops and corrupt departments. We need to see someone do their job and take down a whole department every once in a while.
We need to put African American Federal agents in bait cars and have them drive thru affluent neighborhoods. If they get pulled over for driving while black and the cop steps outa line then the whole thing should be on TV that night.

We need more cops getting outed for stupid social media posts.

We need to teach people how to interact with police. When the police say you're coming with them you're coming with them. Most of the stuff on their belt is tools to make you come with them. You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride.

That sounds like something straight out of the communist handbook comrade.

Granted, since accepting moral degenerates into their ranks, police agencies have gone down hill.

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That being said:

Have you sought psychiatric counselling for your HATE?
 

The Barbarian

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Here's the problem with the cops.
There's so many of them. You have State, County, And City Police. And when they shoot someone and kill them they investigate themselves and decide they didn't do anything wrong. We need uniform oversight with an adversarial relationship and transparency. We need body cams getting published immediately. What possible reason could there be for with holding body cam footage for week or months? It's footage of what happened. No need to wonder or get all worked up when we can all see what went down.

Body cams on all cops at all times. Period.

There ARE bad cops and corrupt departments. We need to see someone do their job and take down a whole department every once in a while.
We need to put African American Federal agents in bait cars and have them drive thru affluent neighborhoods. If they get pulled over for driving while black and the cop steps outa line then the whole thing should be on TV that night.

We need more cops getting outed for stupid social media posts.

There are a few crazy-brave people who are doing this on their own. Started with photographers who were tired of being harassed by crooked cops, but it's moving to things like 2nd Amendment violations and attempts to shut down religious protests.

Do a search on "first amendment audit" on You Tube.

I think the reason that people are assuming that cops are corrupt is that the ubiquitous cell phone camera is now exposing behavior that Judges and juries just didn't believe was going on. It's not that there are many of them; it's like the issue of ministers and priests molesting kids. They actually do it less frequently than the public generally, but it's a shock to know that it happens.

And mostly, it's a few corrupt departments or individual criminals in otherwise clean departments. I spend a lot of time photographing buildings at night, and although police have sometimes approached me, not one of them has crossed the line.
 

The Barbarian

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We need uniform oversight with an adversarial relationship and transparency. We need body cams getting published immediately. What possible reason could there be for with holding body cam footage for week or months? It's footage of what happened. No need to wonder or get all worked up when we can all see what went down.

Body cams on all cops at all times. Period.

There ARE bad cops and corrupt departments. We need to see someone do their job and take down a whole department every once in a while.
We need to put African American Federal agents in bait cars and have them drive thru affluent neighborhoods. If they get pulled over for driving while black and the cop steps outa line then the whole thing should be on TV that night.

We need more cops getting outed for stupid social media posts.

We need to teach people how to interact with police. When the police say you're coming with them you're coming with them. Most of the stuff on their belt is tools to make you come with them. You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride.

Connie writes:
That sounds like something straight out of the communist handbook comrade.

Yes, everyone knows how strictly Stalin made sure his police didn't violate anyone's rights. C'mon, Connie; communist regimes do exactly what most police "watchdogs" do. They investigate themselves, and routinely find that they did nothing wrong.

Any government agency let to supervise itself, becomes a tyranny. Just human nature.
 

MarcATL

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I don't think so, it's just a few raw eggs, and the media is presenting them to the world. So it seems like every officer is bad. What do you think?

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American police, as a whole, are considered to be trigger happy.

No other civilized country in the western hemisphere riddle their suspects with bullets like they do here on a constant basis. It just doesn't happen.

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MarcATL

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First tell us your experiences with police officers, i.e. how many times you've been stopped by one for a traffic infraction or perhaps criminal related offenses. People like you have a history with law enforcement and in order to talk about the police objectively, those that have a hidden agenda need to be exposed.



Yes, each jurisdiction has it's own law enforcement dept., which means that those officers are held accountable by the respective City, County and State agency (and the people of those jurisdictions). Wouldn't you rather go to city hall and complain about the actions of a particular officer then go through the massive red tape of a federal bureaucracy?



"They" meaning another law enforcement agency, specifically a group of men and women who know if dept. protocol was followed and specifically if any State and Federal laws were broken by the officer involved.



That sounds like something straight out of the communist handbook comrade.

Granted, since accepting moral degenerates into their ranks, police agencies have gone down hill.

Gay-pride-parade-nyc-201305.jpg

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000vdoKZ_F6gIE/s/860/860/Gay-pride-parade-nyc-201305.jpg



That being said:

Have you sought psychiatric counselling for your HATE?
What "hate?" There was no hate in his post.

Why don't you start by discussing YOUR experience with the cops? Rosy colored glasses are just as biased, if not more so, than tainted glasses.

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Connie writes:

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
That sounds like something straight out of the communist handbook comrade.

Granted, since accepting moral degenerates into their ranks, police agencies have gone down hill.

Gay-pride-parade-nyc-201305.jpg


Yes, everyone knows how strictly Stalin made sure his police didn't violate anyone's rights. C'mon, Connie; communist regimes do exactly what most police "watchdogs" do. They investigate themselves, and routinely find that they did nothing wrong.

Any government agency let to supervise itself, becomes a tyranny. Just human nature.

Friday, 06 March 2015
Obama Unveils Plan to Further Nationalize Local Police

...“These steps to exercise and take control over police departments should raise a red flag among police officials and give deep concern to anyone who understands the history of national police forces,” continued Fitzgerald. “Have we so soon forgotten the Gestapo or the KGB, both national police agencies, that terrorized the citizens of Germany and Russia and led to the imprisonment and deaths of tens thousands of innocent men and women? Has there ever been a national police force that benefited the citizens who live under it? Never!”

...The history behind efforts to nationalize police forces should also spark alarm over Obama’s plan. It is worth recalling that Communist efforts to nationalize local police forces across the United States date back to at least the 1960s. Toward that end, communist agitators, along with their front groups and useful idiots, have long created problems or exploited existing ones to drum up hatred and violence against police. In recent anti-police marches, communist-made signs and slogans were visible everywhere. But it is hardly a new development.
In an official 1961 report entitled “A Communist Plot Against the Free World Police,” the Judiciary Committee of the U.S. Congress explained how communist agents across the West were working to nationalize and federalize police forces — with a special focus on the United States. The explosive study documents, among other elements of the strategy, the forming of mobs to attack police. Obama’s own radical background and associations with communist terrorists — including launching his political career in the home of Castro-backed terrorist leader Bill Ayers — should provide further cause for concern. His racialist anti-police comments, blurted out every time a suitable incident emerges to be exploited, should also offer warnings of the true agenda.
In the end, the Constitution does not authorize Obama’s “national standards” for police, or the taxpayer-funded bribes being used to spread them nationwide. That means the scheme is unconstitutional on its face. Even if it were constitutional, though, history shows that it would be a terrible and dangerous idea. Police departments should be responsible to the communities that fund them and that they are supposed to serve — not Obama, Holder, or the UN and its “international standards.” To allow further federalization of America’s police agencies is a sure recipe for disaster.
Read more: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...eils-plan-to-further-nationalize-local-police

Now that we've heard from one of TOL's useful idiots, where's fool so that he can speak for himself?
 

The Barbarian

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Connie complains:
In the end, the Constitution does not authorize Obama’s “national standards” for police,

It's called "The Bill of Rights", Connie.

And federal officials intervened to clean up corrupt police departments under Reagan and Bush. It's not a new thing.
 

fool

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First tell us your experiences with police officers, i.e. how many times you've been stopped by one for a traffic infraction or perhaps criminal related offenses. People like you have a history with law enforcement and in order to talk about the police objectively, those that have a hidden agenda need to be exposed.
I haven't had a traffic ticket in 20 years. I'm a white guy in an affluent neighborhood driving a nice car with no points on my record. When I get pulled over I'm friendly and respectful and the tell me to slow down or stop a little bit longer at the stop sign or get my tail light fixed and they send me on my way. They don't even write it up because I'm not a dirtbag. Or at least I don't look or act like one.


Yes, each jurisdiction has it's own law enforcement dept., which means that those officers are held accountable by the respective City, County and State agency (and the people of those jurisdictions). Wouldn't you rather go to city hall and complain about the actions of a particular officer then go through the massive red tape of a federal bureaucracy?
I'd like a state bureaucracy where the checkers don't work with the subject officers on a day to day basis. And I'm talking about shootings and deaths in custody. Not every little complaint although you could use that to gather all the data on all the cops in one place. Is there some reason we shouldn't gather the data all in one place?



"They" meaning another law enforcement agency, specifically a group of men and women who know if dept. protocol was followed and specifically if any State and Federal laws were broken by the officer involved.
Who don't know the Officer or work in the same region.



That sounds like something straight out of the communist handbook comrade.
Teaching people how to behave towards a cop who's asking you for I.D.?

Granted, since accepting moral degenerates into their ranks, police agencies have gone down hill.
They have to recruit from the Human race and we don't pay them so great.
That being said:

Have you sought psychiatric counselling for your HATE?

I want Our cops to be supported and have the oversight they need to trust in the system. I also see that a lot of people don't understand what's expected of them when they have contact with the Police.
 

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There are a few crazy-brave people who are doing this on their own. Started with photographers who were tired of being harassed by crooked cops, but it's moving to things like 2nd Amendment violations and attempts to shut down religious protests.

Do a search on "first amendment audit" on You Tube.

I think the reason that people are assuming that cops are corrupt is that the ubiquitous cell phone camera is now exposing behavior that Judges and juries just didn't believe was going on. It's not that there are many of them; it's like the issue of ministers and priests molesting kids. They actually do it less frequently than the public generally, but it's a shock to know that it happens.

And mostly, it's a few corrupt departments or individual criminals in otherwise clean departments. I spend a lot of time photographing buildings at night, and although police have sometimes approached me, not one of them has crossed the line.

If you put on a hardhat and a reflective vest you can pretty much do whatever you want. Put up some caution tape if you want to keep those pesky cops out.
 

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I want Our cops to be supported and have the oversight they need to trust in the system. I also see that a lot of people don't understand what's expected of them when they have contact with the Police.
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The Barbarian

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If you put on a hardhat and a reflective vest you can pretty much do whatever you want. Put up some caution tape if you want to keep those pesky cops out.

It's true. One of the guys who does those audits wears a reflective vest and an orange reflective hat when he does it.

It's a classic moment when they tell him they are afraid of terrorists sneaking around taking pictures.

He points out that he couldn't sneak up on a rock with that get-up.

I used to do life safety and IH checks in factories. If you carry a small flashlight and a clipboard, no one even asks you what you're doing there.
 
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