julie21
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...No He does not...NOW....drbrumley said:Does God go against His own word?
Would you like to answer my initial question...
"How do you, Mr Brumley, know that our Lord will not convict BE because of his actions on His day?"
...No He does not...NOW....drbrumley said:Does God go against His own word?
Are you accusing anyone here of worshipping Bob Enyart as an idol?The Edge said:I follow God and don't idolize men like Bob Enyart.
The Edge said:Doctor,
Are you saying it is reasonable to beat your child until he bleeds for refusing to take a shower? If so, God help your kids if they really misbehave.
IIRC, Enyart was tried, convicted and served jail time.drbrumley said:I answered your question. Since God doesnt go against His own word, then Bob then is not convicted. Case closed.
I don't believe I accused anyone of "worshipping" him. Am I allowed to not like the man?Turbo said:Are you accusing anyone here of worshipping Bob Enyart as an idol?
drbrumley said:Thanks for the good rep Zakath. Even though it is supposed to be a bad rep, I will consider the source who gave it.
You still can't get over getting your butt whipped by Enyart in your debate with him.
In your opinion...in my opinion, it's an unknowable situation until the End of the Age.drbrumley said:I answered your question. Since God doesnt go against His own word, then Bob then is not convicted. Case closed.
How could such an inerrant bible luminary have made a mistake? I mean, if he made a mistake in his behavior toward his own children, he might be making mistakes in his interpretation of scripture, and of course that just can't be!granite1010 said:Enyart took things too far but it galls his supporters to admit as much. It'd be a lot easier to say the man made a mistake, but since he personally refuses to do so it's no shock his accolytes toe the line, too.
PureX said:How could such an inerrant bible luminary have made a mistake? I mean, if he made a mistake in his behavior toward his own children, he might be making mistakes in his interpretation of scripture, and of course that just can't be!
PureX said:How could such an inerrant bible luminary have made a mistake? I mean, if he made a mistake in his behavior toward his own children, he might be making mistakes in his interpretation of scripture, and of course that just can't be!
drbrumley said:I answered your question. Since God doesnt go against His own word, then Bob then is not convicted. Case closed.
I agree with this post.godrulz said:I do not know all the facts. It is possible Enyart crossed the line and the discipline was borderline abusive. If he is totally innocent, then he has not violated the Word and God does not go against it. If he was quilty of unbiblical and illegal discipline, then he is convicted in God's court and human courts (Rom. 13). The State is not always right. They think any spanking is abusive, which is contrary to the Word. If it was done in anger or left marks or was against a teenager, etc., then it is not defensible. This is somewhat subjective. We do not want to side with pop psychology that minimizes any discipline. We also do not want to hide behind the Bible and justify excessive force. There are Christians that are guilty of abuse. Not that Dobson is the end all and be all, but I suspect his expertise would question this case if it is true it was over a shower and left significant marks.
One should be careful to not assume a high profile leader can do no wrong or should not be held accountable if they cross the line. As a leader, it would be wiser to be more temperate and not open the door to false accusations or give credence to others who may not have self-control and use him as a justification for excessive force. The point can be made with one spank, not 3. Did he use his hand or an object. Objects are perceived as weapons and excessive abuse.
The Edge said:I agree with this post.
To answer your question, Godrulz, Enyart took the 7 year old boy who was his stepson out to a shed and used a belt to beat the child until he had welts and was bleeding with broken skin, as the boy's mother protested the punishment.