SaulToPaul 2
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There was a woman who placed herself UNDER Israel, submitted herself to the LORD as a Gentile dog.
Genesis 12:1-3 (KJV) provides for her to be blessed.
An appeal to 2P2Ps
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There was a woman who placed herself UNDER Israel, submitted herself to the LORD as a Gentile dog.
Genesis 12:1-3 (KJV) provides for her to be blessed.
Interplanner
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yes, to go along with the positioning he gave, which he completely tore down elsewhere. You are intentionally out of touch with what really happened, as found in Jn 4.
How many people around the world have you called dogs today? Name them specfically. You are a fool and liar and a creep if you don't have at least 100 non Jewish people on that list and post it here, preferably in its own thread with your TOL stooge name. That's what you really believe. they are dogs. they are dirty, maggot and flea infested scum. That's what you are all about.
If you don't list them all by name, your 'support' of Israel is worthless.
And this is just one stray line; there is no DOCTRINAL passage by the apostles that supports this. But that does not matter to 2P2Pers. Only 2P2P and keeping Gentiles a great distance away.
You do not accept what Gal 3:8 is saying how that promise to all the nations is supposed to be used. it is not legal citizenship in Israel. it is in Christ, and that's where the nations get to praise the Lord for his mercy, and that mercy is the attention of a huge number of prophecies, Rom 15 says.
Normally, I don't report people - but you have gone too far in your mistreatment of STP. Consider yourself reported.
This is a bit much and you are reacting with too much hostility towards another member.
SaulToPaul 2
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The LORD was not sent to you, and he could not legally bless you unless you submitted yourself under Israel.
Facts. Accept them.
Interplanner
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"Legally" lol. Ever heard of freedom from the law, and the fellowship of all believers, no matter their background, IN CHRIST?
But go on, keep digging your hold.
SaulToPaul 2
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Why do you think the LORD would violate Gen 12:1-3 (KJV)?
Is that how high your opinion is of the LORD?
Interplanner
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He didn't. You are ignorant of what it means, that's all that's going on here. It's final meaning is Gal 3:8-9. It never was about the nation. It was about the precious cargo they were transmitting.
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
Poor IP.
"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel"
"Go NOT in the way of the Gentiles, but rather...."
Not complicated.
Interplanner
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No it is not complicated. He was getting Jewish missionaries prepped for Pentecost. Just follow what happens there and why. To reach "the ends of the earth" with the Gospel, Mt 28. Not with Judaism, not with a theocracy, etc. Instead with ministers of the new covenant, which you have raped with other meaning as well.
Interplanner
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No it is not complicated. He was getting Jewish missionaries prepped for Pentecost. Just follow what happens there and why. To reach "the ends of the earth" with the Gospel, Mt 28. Not with Judaism, not with a theocracy, etc. Instead with ministers of the new covenant, which you have raped with other meaning as well.
IP is rich IN CHRIST!
God's Truth
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Israel is all those who come to Jesus by living faith no matter what nationality and ethnicity they are.
It must have seemed as if all Jews were cut off, hardened, and blinded by God forever, and that an ethnicity of people was permanently disallowed from ever being saved again.
However, Paul assures the listener that all Israel will be saved...that is, any potential believer from the nation of Israel are not being kept out by God and not allowed to be grafted back in to true Israel and thus being saved...that any Jew who would believe in Jesus---can do so, so that all Israel, true Israel will be saved; for leaving out a race of people would leave out those who make up together true Israel.
Certainly, all Israel being saved is not about every single Jew is going to be saved.
God's Truth
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Read the scriptures right before 19.
The scriptures 17 and 18.
Acts 3:17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.
Did you read those scriptures? Peter tells the Jews that the Old Testament foretold about Christ coming and suffering and how it has been FULFILLED. The Old Testament spoke of people repenting of their sins so that the times of refreshing may come from the Lord, and that he may send the Christ. See, John the baptizer prepared the way for the Christ. That means the people had to repent of their sins before Christ could save them.
John the baptizer prepared the way for Jesus. He came preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins (Luke 1:76-80).
Peter is explaining to the people that the prophecies about the Christ coming was about Jesus.
God's Truth
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When Jesus came to earth, he came only for the lost sheep of Israel. The lost sheep of Israel are the Jews who had faith and repented.
Jesus said when he is crucified, then all could come to him to be saved.
John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."
Even the cut off Jews could be grafted back in:
Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
Paul explains it as Jews first and then Gentiles:
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.
Acts 3:26 When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways."
Romans 2:9
There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;
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God's Truth
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She was blood related to Abraham.
She was called a dog because she did not obey God.
Dogs do not know their father, and the people who were blood related to Abraham did not know the Father God if they did not obey God. Obeying God's commands are the way to know God.
1 John 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands.
1 John 2:4
If anyone says, "I know Him," but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
The 'dogs' who had faith pleased Jesus, for faith would be the bases for the New Covenant.
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God's Truth
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John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
This scripture proves that it does NOT matter about being blood related to Abraham anymore.
It mattered until Jesus came to earth because he had to be related to Abraham because of the promise.
Now that Jesus has come and shed his blood, it only matters if we are related by Jesus' blood when we come to him for forgiveness.
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You should report yourself.
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You completely mishandle what little of the Bible you care to quote.
God's Truth
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Jesus is sitting on the Highest Throne there is and you think he is going to give it up for some earthly throne.
The throne of David is a throne over Israel. Jesus has all authority, he is at the highest place.
The scripture says Jesus is ABOVE EVERY NAME, including David's. Jesus is above every rule, including David's.
Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.