Alabama Proposes Whopping 40% 'Porn Tax' to Help Fund Essential Services

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Alabama Proposes Whopping 40% 'Porn Tax' to Help Fund Essential Services; Bill's Definition of 'Porn' Seems Problematic

Currently ranked among the top ten most conservative states in the U.S., and the most conservative state in 2013 according to Gallup, Alabama is now seeking to raise revenue from the consumption of pornographic material and adult entertainment to fund essential services through a 40 percent state excise tax.

A WKRG report said the Alabama House Ways and Means Committee passed the proposed "porn tax" in a 10-4 vote last Wednesday as part of an effort to meet a $200 million budget shortfall before October 1.

Rep. Jack Williams, R-Vestavia Hills, said the whopping tax would apply to gross "receipts from the sale of sexually oriented materials."

And according to the bill "sexually oriented materials" would include "any book, magazine, newspaper, printed or written matter, writing, description, picture, drawing, animation, photograph, motion picture, film, video tape, pictorial presentation, depiction, image, electrical or electronic reproduction, broadcast, transmission, video download, telephone communication, sound recording, article, device, equipment, matter, oral communication, depicting breast or genital nudity or sexual conduct."

Besides making money for the state, the tax is intended to be a "sin tax," or tax on goods or services for which the state wants to limit the use, Williams explained.

"[It] basically says that any entertainment product that's adult in nature, that you have to be over 18 to purchase, would have an excise tax like cigarettes and tobacco do," Williams told WIAT.

Still according to Kyle Whitmire of AL.com there is a concern about what is or isn't porn.

The bill, he says, "would not apply to 'motion pictures designated by the rating board for the Motion Picture Association of America by the letter 'R' for restricted audiences, persons under 17 years of age not admitted unless accompanied by parent or adult guardian, or the designation 'NC-17' for persons under 17 years of age admitted.' Under this law, Fifty Shades of Grey the book might be porn, but the movie, which is rated 'R,' might not be. We'll just have to see."

It is also unclear how much money the bill, which is headed to the Alabama House for a floor vote, is expected to raise and how seriously residents of the state should take it.

"The Alabama Legislative Research Office has written an analysis, called a 'fiscal note,' but it only says that it will have a positive impact on the state's General Fund. That could mean a penny or a billion dollars. No one really knows," said Whitmire.

Williams who believes he has strong enough support in the Alabama House and Senate to pass the bill said the state's 72-year-old Republican Gov. Robert Julian Bentley said earlier this summer that he would support it.


YOU CAN READ THE COMPLETE BILL BELOW:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/273516108/Alabama-Porn-Tax-Bill

What do you think about sin taxes? Do you see any problems with some of the mediums listed above?

Id like to know how they intended to enforce these 2:

telephone communication
oral communication

And what exactly is defined as:

sexual conduct

Some people call flirting sexual conduct.
 

rexlunae

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It seems to me that this is a violation of the First Amendment. And I don't care for deputizing the MPAA as a regulatory board. And, 40% of 0 is 0, which covers a pretty broad range of things.
 

Angel4Truth

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It seems to me that this is a violation of the First Amendment. And I don't care for deputizing the MPAA as a regulatory board. And, 40% of 0 is 0, which covers a pretty broad range of things.

How, cite where and how its a violation of the first amendment.

Cigarettes, gas, alcohol are taxed too and paid by only those who use them.
 

Buzzword

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One problem, who actually still pays for porn?

Beyond anything else, this is what it comes down to.
The Internet has made viewing all kinds of information freely available, with no trace left beyond one's browsing history.

As much as it cracks me up to see ANY Bible Belt state (ya know, the area which statistically consumes the most pornography each year) trying to cash in on its own seedy underbelly, attempting to do so in this manner is unconstitutional and completely unfeasible.
 

Angel4Truth

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Beyond anything else, this is what it comes down to.
The Internet has made viewing all kinds of information freely available, with no trace left beyond one's browsing history.

As much as it cracks me up to see ANY Bible Belt state (ya know, the area which statistically consumes the most pornography each year) trying to cash in on its own seedy underbelly, attempting to do so in this manner is unconstitutional and completely unfeasible.

Still waiting for you to show how taxing it is unconstitutional, and show your cites.

Im guessing that any luxury taxes, those on cigarettes and alcohol are also against the first amendment according to you, please show your evidence.
 

Angel4Truth

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Wait, what?
You mean anyone can without joining and saying you are at least 18 years old to view?
That's kinda disturbing.

Have you ever clicked on a website, that you thought was going to music, or just a general article and been hit with massive porn popping up all over the place where you had to just hard shut down your computer to make it stop?

Hasnt happened in a long time thankfully, but when i first started getting online it happened a few times.
 

Tambora

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Have you ever clicked on a website, that you thought was going to music, or just a general article and been hit with massive porn popping up all over the place where you had to just hard shut down your computer to make it stop?

Hasnt happened in a long time thankfully, but when i first started getting online it happened a few times.
No.
For some reason I thought one would have to agree to a stipulation that they were at least 18.
I guess I just thought that because I wanted it to be that way.

I'm kinda worried now. I got a young granddaughter here that is always on the computer with her friends.
 

Angel4Truth

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No.
For some reason I thought one would have to agree to a stipulation that they were at least 18.
I guess I just thought that because I wanted it to be that way.

I'm kinda worried now. I got a young granddaughter here that is always on the computer with her friends.

You might want to set up some controls on what sites can be accessed.
 

Buzzword

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Still waiting for you to show how taxing it is unconstitutional, and show your cites.

Im guessing that any luxury taxes, those on cigarettes and alcohol are also against the first amendment according to you, please show your evidence.

Still waiting for you to show how to tax an action which requires no exchange of money or personal information to happen.

For me the unconstitutionality of attempting to tax the act of accessing a particular kind of freely available information is secondary to the complete impossibility and thus idiocy of such an attempt.
 

Angel4Truth

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Still waiting for you to show how to tax an action which requires no exchange of money or personal information to happen.
I see no such question posed to me. Post it.

For me the unconstitutionality of attempting to tax the act of accessing a particular kind of freely available information is secondary to the complete impossibility and thus idiocy of such an attempt.


Where does the op say anything taxing something free? Post it.

Also show where taxing the things listed in the op are against the first amendment like you claimed, you know you made a claim, back it up.
 

Sitamun

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I see no such question posed to me. Post it.




Where does the op say anything taxing something free? Post it.

Also show where taxing the things listed in the op are against the first amendment like you claimed, you know you made a claim, back it up.

You posted about a "Porn Tax" I made (what I thought at least) a comical response to you can't tax what people don't pay for comment. If people can get it for free, how can you tax it?
 
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