Alabama Closes DMVs in Black Counties

Ktoyou

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I did not read up on what is closed. There are DPS offices in every county and in most towns. All this is plain silly. We have no DMV anyway, in Louisiana, they have OMV. (I do see why some might call it the DMV, from the DMV.org, yet neither states have this. In Texas, it is the DPS.

Louisiana is more strict than Alabama for obtaining an ID.

To obtain a Louisiana driver's license, you will need to appear in person at a LA OMV office. You must: Complete an Application for License or Identification Card (Form DPSMV 2003). Provide proof of your identity (multiple documents required)

I have IDs in both of these states.
 

Huckleberry

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Liberals will buy any lie, if they see it in print.
A4T, don't you know that the south is so racist that everything they do is racist, even when it isn't? :nono:

Never mind that we actually have all the black people down here. Check the demographics and you'll find that the vast majority of black people seem to like living in the south. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it probably has something with the fact that we grow up with them and form relationships with them. You know, like they're people or something. Instead of just a voting demographic.
 
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Angel4Truth

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A4T, don't you know that the south is so racist that everything they do is racist, even when it isn't? :nono:

Never mind that we actually have all the black people down here. Check the demographics and you'll find that the vast majority of black people seem to like living in the south. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it probably has something with the fact that we grow up with them and form relationships with them. You know, like their people or something. Instead of just a voting demographic.

:chuckle:
 

genuineoriginal

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Tell me again how this ISN'T racism, and ISN'T voter fraud.
e state of Alabama, which requires a photo ID to vote, announced this week that it would stop issuing driver’s licenses in counties where 75 percent of registered voters are black.

Due to budget cuts, Alabama Law Enforcement Agency said that 31 satellite DMV offices would no longer have access to driver’s licenses examiners, meaning that residents will need to travel to other counties to apply for licenses. The move comes just one year after the state’s voter photo ID law went into effect.

AL.com’s John Archibald asserted in a column on Wednesday that the U.S. Department of Justice should open an investigation into the closings.

“Because Alabama just took a giant step backward,” he wrote. “Take a look at the 10 Alabama counties with the highest percentage of non-white registered voters. That’s Macon, Greene, Sumter, Lowndes, Bullock, Perry, Wilcox, Dallas, Hale, and Montgomery, according to the Alabama Secretary of State’s office. Alabama, thanks to its budgetary insanity and inanity, just opted to close driver license bureaus in eight of them.”

“Every single county in which blacks make up more than 75 percent of registered voters will see their driver license office closed. Every one,” Archibald explained. “But maybe it’s not racial at all, right? Maybe it’s just political. And let’s face it, it may not be either… But no matter the intent, the consequence is the same.”

The columnist observed that Alabama had created both a civil rights and public relations problem for itself.

“It is an affront to the very notion of justice in a nation where one man one vote is as precious as oxygen,” he insisted. “It is a slap in the face to all who believe the stuff we teach the kids about how all are created equal.”

“So roll out the welcome wagon to the Justice Department, and tell the world what it already so desperately wants to hear,” he concluded. “That Alabama is exactly what they always thought she was.”
Alabama to stop issuing driver’s licenses in counties with 75% black registered voters
Anyone that thinks this is racism and voter fraud is a moron.

There are 8 closures in the 10 counties with a majority black population in Alabama.
Those 8 counties rank 50, 54, 60, 62, 64, 65, 66, 67 in the list of 67 Alabama counties by population. The combined population of those 8 counties is 98,596 people, which is about 1/7th of the combined population of 736,728 in the other counties with closures.

The percent of the population of blacks in Alabama is 25% and the counties with the majority black populations that have closures only accounts for 2% of the population.

No, there is no racism and no voter fraud going on from the government of Alabama, but there is a racist writing the OP's article.
 

genuineoriginal

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Why remove those satellites in those specific precincts?
The offices closed only account for 5% of driver license transactions.

The 31 satellite locations handle less than 5 percent of driver license transactions, according to ALEA.

"With the new budget cuts passed by the Alabama Legislature for fiscal year 2016, and with our limited personnel, travel has been eliminated to these part-time satellite locations," Collier said in a news release.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/09/state_announces_to_close_becau.html

I also ran the numbers on the population.
The precincts with closures account for 17% of Alabama population.
The precincts mentioned in the OP (majority black populations) with closures account for only 2% of Alabama population.
 

genuineoriginal

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Do people who don't drive had the right to vote?
Unfortunately, right now you don't even need to prove you are a citizen or that you are alive in order to vote, much to the delight of the Democrats.
But to answer your question, every citizen has the ability to get a state ID card or other proof of identity, and they don't even need to be able to drive to get one.


Is it fair to take away the means of their enfranchisement just because it's used less than in other parts of the state?
You are asking the wrong person.
I am in favor of removing enfranchisement from people that do not own real estate.
 

Angel4Truth

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Do people who don't drive had the right to vote? Is it fair to take away the means of their enfranchisement just because it's used less than in other parts of the state?

See page 3, no one is being disenfranchised. No actual county DMV offices have closed, only additional convenience side offices and they have closed all over the state (you know satellite locations, those inside grocery stores or strip malls that are part time to alleviate strain on the main dmv locations) Of course those in the very least populous counties would close first, because there is already less traffic in a county of less than 10,000 people total. Those locations also arent even owned by the state, they were convenience agreements, you do know what a satellite location is right?
 
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