a whore for the republican party

TomO

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tomo has nothing to offer
I am sure he is a trump supporter

:think: The only thing which would make me vote for Trump is if it was a direct contest with Hillary.

I would vote for Satan himself to keep Hillary out and that is because I believe her to be even more evil than him. :devil:
 

chrysostom

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:think: The only thing which would make me vote for Trump is if it was a direct contest with Hillary.

I would vote for Satan himself to keep Hillary out and that is because I believe her to be even more evil than him. :devil:

okay
I was wrong
you do have something to offer
 

annabenedetti

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I heard on the news today that among young Democrat women, Bernie was polling 19 points ahead of Hillary. I've wondered before whether Hillary would make it out of the primaries, and if she's not even winning over the women, I might surprise myself and be right.
 

chrysostom

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the problem with polls

REACH Communications conducted this survey of 416 registered republican voters whom stated they will be voting in the 2016 First in the Nation Primary on February 9th 2016.

trump 26.2%
jeb 14.9%

the problem here is we have to take their word that they will vote
they could have checked to see if they voted in the 2008 and 2012 primaries
but
they didn't

the next one is worse


The Monmouth University Poll was sponsored and conducted by the Monmouth University Polling Institute from January 7 to 10, 2016 with a statewide random sample of 414 New Hampshire voters drawn from a list of registered Republican and independent voters who participated in a primary election in the past two election cycles or voted in both the 2012 and 2014 general elections, and indicate they will vote in the Republican presidential primary in February 2016. This was supplemented by a sample of new voters who say they are likely to register and vote in the Republican primary.
This includes 287 contacted by a live interviewer on a landline telephone and 127 contacted by a live interviewer on a cell phone, in English.

trump 32%
jeb 4%
 

annabenedetti

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"whom stated they will be voting"

That doesn't sound right to me. Shouldn't it be "who?"


Anyway, I understand the current problem with polls. Something to consider, though: right or wrong, way off or pretty accurate, poll results have the power to drive public opinion.
 

kmoney

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Rand's "Audit the Fed" bill fails. Rand got 54 votes as versus 47 against, but not the 60 required for cloture, let alone the 67 required to overturn a sure Barry veto. The bill goes down to defeat.

Time now to forget this very small reform, and continue educating Americans, as Ron Paul does, on why we need to End the Fed. Given the economic catastrophe it’s bringing down on the whole world, there has never been a better time. May Ron one day–if we do our job–be the auctioneer at the sale of Mordor’s cold, marble Fed headquarters.

Going, going, gone.

I'm surprised it got that many votes.
 

chrysostom

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the problem with polls

REACH Communications conducted this survey of 416 registered republican voters whom stated they will be voting in the 2016 First in the Nation Primary on February 9th 2016.

trump 26.2%
jeb 14.9%

the problem here is we have to take their word that they will vote
they could have checked to see if they voted in the 2008 and 2012 primaries
but
they didn't

the next one is worse


The Monmouth University Poll was sponsored and conducted by the Monmouth University Polling Institute from January 7 to 10, 2016 with a statewide random sample of 414 New Hampshire voters drawn from a list of registered Republican and independent voters who participated in a primary election in the past two election cycles or voted in both the 2012 and 2014 general elections, and indicate they will vote in the Republican presidential primary in February 2016. This was supplemented by a sample of new voters who say they are likely to register and vote in the Republican primary.
This includes 287 contacted by a live interviewer on a landline telephone and 127 contacted by a live interviewer on a cell phone, in English.

trump 32%
jeb 4%

you don't have to vote
just attend a trump rally
it is great theater
he will say what you want to hear
and
it will all be better
 

rocketman

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:rotfl:


Go Chry go!!!

kool1.jpg


Perfect....:chuckle:
 

rocketman

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you don't have to vote
just attend a trump rally
it is great theater
he will say what you want to hear
and
it will all be better

Kinda like all that gas the RINO's gave us two years ago to gain control of the senate and do absolutely nothing with it except acquiesce to every whim of this president. You mean like that right?
 

chrysostom

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Landline (375) and cellphone (425) numbers were randomly selected from a statewide voter file of registered New Hampshire voters using a probability proportionate to size method. This simply means that phone numbers are proportionally representative to the number of voters in all regions across the state of New Hampshire.

this is from the The Fox News Poll

please explain it to me
if
you understand it
 

annabenedetti

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Landline (375) and cellphone (425) numbers were randomly selected from a statewide voter file of registered New Hampshire voters using a probability proportionate to size method. This simply means that phone numbers are proportionally representative to the number of voters in all regions across the state of New Hampshire.

this is from the The Fox News Poll

please explain it to me
if
you understand it

It's a type of probability sampling, which is good, that's the kind you want. It uses a specific process to make sure that individuals from larger and smaller clusters have the same probability of being included in a sample. I don't know, I'm only guessing, that in referencing "all regions across the state," that what they're saying is that they've weighted the poll so that people in remote or lightly populated areas have the same statistical probability of being sampled as those in urban or densely populated areas, even if, for example, in more lightly populated areas, people may be more likely to have a landline and people in cities more likely to have a cell phone.
 

chrysostom

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It's a type of probability sampling, which is good, that's the kind you want.

not what I want

all I want to know
is
did they vote in the republican primary in 2008 and 2012
and
you can know that before you make the call
then
you ask them who they would vote for today
without giving them a list

this does eliminate first time voters
but
you have to know
they don't start with primaries
 

rocketman

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All the speculation ends in 15 days and we will all see if the polls are correct or even remotely close.
 

kmoney

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At least we will know what we are working with, I have a hunch that the polls are very close or maybe even understated.

Except because of the stupid primary season we won't really know yet. But more candidates will start to get weeded out.
 
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