A Perspective on Donald Trump

aCultureWarrior

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All in quotes with "author unknown" at the end of the extended quote.

To the rest of your post:

Frankly, both candidates are revolting to the point where voting my conscience means not voting.

Reality check: my civic duty, according to scripture, is to submit to the governing authorities and pay taxes. Period.

Here's a solution for you:

Vote, but don't vote for either Trump or Clinton for President. When it comes to the rest of your ballot: Look into the background of the candidates at your local, county and state level, as well as the ones from your state that are running for US Senate and Congressional seats.

"Don't be the problem. When asked to choose between the lesser of two evils, choose neither."
 

theophilus

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Here's a solution for you:

Vote, but don't vote for either Trump or Clinton for President. When it comes to the rest of your ballot: Look into the background of the candidates at your local, county and state level, as well as the ones from your state that are running for US Senate and Congressional seats.

"Don't be the problem. When asked to choose between the lesser of two evils, choose neither."

Who are you voting for?
 

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"Is Trump good for America? I mentioned Sunday that I would speak on this next week. Unfortunately, I found that I was shoehorning this topic into my planned message. To properly present what I want to speak on Sunday, I may have to leave the Donald out of it! But let me take a minute for those that wonder and give some of my thoughts.

When I first heard that Trump (DT) was entering the race last year, I told my wife that perhaps it was a good thing for the party and America. I knew that he was not a "saint," but I thought that he would be like a bull in a china shop. He is a disrupter and I believe America could use a fresh thinker especially in the political arena. I didn't think he would get the nomination, but that he would shake up politics as usual. I was correct on the shaking up!

Lance Wallnau likens him to a biblical Cyrus. Someone who is dynamically used of God even though not perceived by many as a God follower. God has used many people in history that I would probably not like or agree with. I’m not sure I would have liked all the disciples, or David, or Moses. Somehow, God did not seem compelled to consult with me on His choices!

I have always admired Winston Churchill. He is seen as one of the greatest national leaders in the 20th century. Last year, I had the privilege of going through the War Museum in London. Winston is a key feature. His life is controversial. He was not always celebrated as a great leader. He was a bombastic, cigar smoking, at times crude, even misogynistic leader. It is alleged that he told off color stories to his children before bedtime! A woman once told him he was disgustingly drunk. His response was "My dear, you are disgustingly ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly!"

There are many websites that discuss the outlandish comments and activities of this great world leader. But, he had exactly what was needed to stop Hitler at the Channel, to rouse a nation to never give up and to partner with America to find final victory in Europe. You probably wouldn't want him as your pastor, maybe not even your father, but he was the right leader for that moment in England's history. Such a brazen man that would go up to the roof of his quarters in central London and smoke cigars as Hitler’s air force bombed all around him. I’m not sure I would have voted for him.... but he was the right man!

I think it would be awesome to have a righteous leader, one that understood the intricacies of the economy, health care, defense, immigration, with great sensitivity to religious institutions, a heart for the poor, a vision for the future. If that leader was a praying person, formidable in the word of God and loved the local church, I would rejoice! I do not think that is the choice we will have in November.

Instead....we will look for someone who is imperfect, yet will fit the times we are living in. Particularly, that ‘whoever’ we vote for, will be someone who might possibly have the opportunity to appoint up to three Supreme Court justices. That could radically shape our culture in America for the next 30 years. The America of our grandchildren could be very different....and that may not be good. We cannot stand on the sidelines. A non-vote is a passive vote for a direction we may very well regret.

So...is Donald Trump good for America? I honestly believe that he has been already. He has shaken the political system. Do his comments offend me? At times! Do I agree with all he says? Not at all! But could he be a “Cyrus” being raised up by God to preserve America? Nobody liked Gen. Patton, but he sure WAS an instrument of the United States for the right things.

This I know. I will vote for the best chance for America. I will pray for our leaders as I have already. In the end - God will continue to be my source and my hope. I do believe that God has had a hand in America's history. I hope and pray that He will also have a saving hand in America’s future."

~Author Unknown

What are the times we're living in?

Is God using Trump? :idunno: Time will tell. I sure ain't voting for him in the meantime.
 

aCultureWarrior

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I would like to thank secular humanist Jose Fly for bringing this to my attention in another thread (although Mr. Fly wasn't trying to make the case that I am making) :

Donald Trump and "extreme vetting" on immigration:

"Trump aides said the government would use questionnaires, social media, interview with family and friends or other means to vet applicants' stances on issues including religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. Trump did not clarify how U.S. officials would assess the veracity of responses to the questionnaires or how much manpower it would require to complete such arduous vetting."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ld-trump-terrorism-speech-20160815-story.html

So amongst other things, a President Donald Trump would use "questionnaires, social media, interview family and friends and other means" to find out that a Christian wanting to immigrate into the United States that holds traditional biblical values (I.e. he or she doesn't embrace the LGBTQ agenda nor homosexual behavior) as a vetting process to keep that Christian from immigrating into the US.

I wonder how long before a President Donald Trump would vet US citizens with those standards?
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Catholic Crusader

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Yeah, I reminisce about the "good old days" when Sarah Palin was the craziest person in politics......good times. :)
Palin is a helluva lot smarter than you obviously.

.......So...is Donald Trump good for America? I honestly believe that he has been already. He has shaken the political system. Do his comments offend me? At times! Do I agree with all he says? Not at all! But could he be a “Cyrus” being raised up by God to preserve America? Nobody liked Gen. Patton, but he sure WAS an instrument of the United States for the right things.......
Interesting. Yes, his words may offend, but he is the right man at the right time. Hillary's awful policies will offend much longer if she is elected than Trump's snarky comments will.
 

theophilus

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Palin is a helluva lot smarter than you obviously.


Interesting. Yes, his words may offend, but he is the right man at the right time. Hillary's awful policies will offend much longer if she is elected than Trump's snarky comments will.

FTR - That was a quote from a Pastor; not my own words.

:e4e:

Just sayin.'

And yes, Hillary IS scary.
 

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So...is Donald Trump good for America? I honestly believe that he has been already. He has shaken the political system. Do his comments offend me? At times! Do I agree with all he says? Not at all! But could he be a “Cyrus” being raised up by God to preserve America? Nobody liked Gen. Patton, but he sure WAS an instrument of the United States for the right things.

Then Trump-as-political-agitator's task is done. By design agitators don't befit a presidential appointment, rather they persist at manipulating the very process.
 

theophilus

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Then Trump-as-political-agitator's task is done. By design agitators don't befit a presidential appointment, rather they persist at manipulating the very process.

Again please; I was quoting a Pastor.

Frankly, both candidates scare me to death (for different reasons).

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