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That's entirely fair enough. Not everybody on the right is going to support Trump or buy into the likes of Q.

Well of course they aren't any such thing by definition, that was a silly thing to say. Sure, Trump doesn't have control over what some bizarre outfit has to say about him or their ideas but he played up to Q as well. The bizarre notion that Trump was involved in such a secret "war" could only...

The guidance is based on the evidence that such measures work, from the extrapolated data etc, as more than amply set out in detail from the links I supplied from the CDC earlier.

Oh, it didn't work okay and ill thought out, essentially because of the myriad variables and lack of enforcement even in cases that may have been tracked. Hardly a "socialist" experiment however.

You really have an absolute aversion to wearing masks or any sort of restrictive protocols during a global pandemic crisis no matter what is all I get from you frankly.

The difference being?!

That upside down flag avatar really kinda suits your 'thinking'. Otherwise, nope...

Silly analogy and one hardly rooted in love or compassion for your fellow man either, much like the attitude the rich man had to Lazarus ironically. Yes, there's a safety net that affords the availability of food to people regardless of employment or financial status. In the UK, the benefits...

I'm saying the mob were part of the MAGA crowd as is evidenced by any quick google search. There's enough to choose from so take your pick.

Well, no. I'm just rather selective as to where I get my information from is all and even then I often cross reference to see if it holds up to scrutiny. So obviously, sources such as what you routinely link to don't pass muster.

Um, you can hardly have it both ways where it comes to the CDC. As with the links I provided to you, the CDC supports lockdowns and has the data to support the efficacy of them along with other safety measures. All you've done is cherry pick two states as if that's the yardstick as to the...

Zerohedge?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge Yeh, that's the first port of call for intelligent journalism... About the best thing Scott Atlas did was resign. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55141055

The CDC supports lockdown measures, social distancing and mask wearing as effective in curtailing the spread of the virus, which common sense should tell you as to why. There's nothing 'draconian' about implementing such in the situation of a global pandemic of a new virus that has undergone...

Well, I didn't want to be hit by such a pile of ignorance so I chose to duck...

Well, you're the one who doesn't give the CDC any respect now, so by association, you can hardly support RD's position when he uses the data as source material.

You skimmed it at best. It went into complex detail as to why there was a similarity with the figures on an initial level but then explained the reasons why with comparisons to other states. It favours safety protocols but also explained as to why. I'm not surprised that you don't want to...

You didn't even read the article, otherwise you wouldn't have made such an ignorant comment.

The source of RD's data emanates from the CDC as he's stated himself. What contradictions are you referring to exactly?

Here's an opportunity for you to learn something, if you're willing, rather than relying on cherry picking data to tie in with your confirmation bias. As you've already been shown, the CDC supports the efficacy of lockdowns and other safety measures in order to reduce the flow of the virus...

Oh, I have more choices than that thanks, one of which being to point out that even in states or regions where there isn't a largely significant difference in terms of infection rates with differing approaches to the pandemic in no way reduces the efficacy of such measures. For one thing...