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Well, that didn't have anything to do with what's under discussion and am familiar with plenty of teaching about "hell" and couldn't really care less what your version of it is either. FTR, if everything comes to light surrounding all the lies then where it comes to politics I'm under no...

Uh huh, carry on wearing the tin foil hat.

To you he is, which as outlined before doesn't make you a spokesperson for those who voted for him and didn't. As a counterpoint, I found Trump to be mind numbingly tedious with his narcissistic, puffed up, self congratulatory rambles but that doesn't put me in a position to say that other...

A shame. Not very bright to buy into conspiracy garbage when there's no credible evidence to support it but your call.

So, you can't answer on point then? Noted.

Well no, but then you'll follow anything that suits your little narrative be it this or conspiracy bunk about the election. Truth doesn't matter to you if it's inconvenient, which it is a lot of the time given what you put forth.

Why on earth should she? She wants an end to police brutality and there's nothing wrong with that. The actions of Chauvin were inexcusable. He brought disgrace to the uniform, the badge and the profession he was supposed to uphold along with those who aided and abetted. If you're okay with...

Exactly, but somehow this probably still won't compute with the conspiracy crowd...

Selective bias is not an advantage.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize constant hyperbole and ignorance either. I'm sure in snapshot Trump would look as though he had the bigger crowds but that isn't taking into consideration other factors. Covid for starters. Biden wasn't interested in having massive turnouts and...

Well, that's not an unbiased source at all then is it? Do you always get your "news" and "research" from sites with such a heavy confirmation bias? Otherwise, this goes nowhere near the amount of substantial proof required to support your posit in any way.

Oh, there'll doubtless be political gain for Mccarthy to do such a turn, after all, he's not going to get any help with the current administration on the score. It would be rather stupid of him to maintain baseless fraud allegations where it's probably dawned on him by now that they're going...

Yes, he's lucky if there's half a dozen in attendance. This is lame Jefferson. I guess there were only 'small gatherings' celebrating his election win as well, right? You do also realize that crowd attendance isn't a signifier for candidate support as well, right? Clinton had bigger ones than...

Yep.

So, if Chauvin had done the same to a white man for nine minutes would that make a difference to you? Wouldn't for me, he should have faced the same charges and sentencing.

He used to tout the same as you. Now he's done an about turn. Why do you suppose that is?

Then prove it. Otherwise this is just more bellyaching and empty assertion with a ton of subjective bias.

There was always going to be a far higher voter turnout in the 2020 election than 2016, that much was obvious and that applied to both parties.

Who are you to determine that Biden elicited complete boredom from his supporters? I've seen gatherings for both Trump and Biden during the election run and you're simply talking rubbish. Biden may be boring to you personally and that's fine but you're hardly a mouthpiece for those who voted for...

Anyone with good sense and unbiased judgement would have been sceptical of the allegations of fraud to start with and even more so with the ongoing debacle that followed.