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Dave, We know EXACTLY what a star is and EXACTLY why stars move across the sky. It's not a mystery like you're making it out to be. Stars are balls of super hot burning gases and plasma. They move across our sky because the earth is spinning once every 24 hours on its axis.

Dave, it seems you're having a hard time separating out truth from fantasy. Most strong Christians don't believe in a multiverse, but they do believe that our universe isn't just some dome over our heads. You keep implying through what you say that whoever doesn't believe in a flat earth...

Not just "a" master designer. He is "the" Master Designer. Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

Saying something doesn't fit a model doesn't make it so, Dave. What is their evidence that the moon phases don't match the globe model? And how do the moon phases match the flat earth model more? We've already gone through this topic, even recently. Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

Dave, have you ever done any measurements of the earth, moon, and sun? Have you ever seen any of the calculations done to try to measure the distances between the earth, moon, and sun, and the angles that they form? Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

Also, have you gone through his calculations? Have you compared them with reality? Do his calculations (if they match reality) show evidence of a flat or round earth? Forget his "assumptions" for a moment and look at the math he used. Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

Again, whether the earth is flat or round has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on raw calculations for distances and angles. Dave, I want you to prove to me, using your own measurements, that the sun is close to the earth. Show us that that the math (not what someone says about the shape of the earth) that...

First of all, in "the illustration," all we see is a circle, not a sphere. And a sphere can look like a circle from far away, and from any direction. So, I'd like to know why you assume "sphere" from that image, or at least provide us with Aristarchus's own drawings and notes, to show that he...

Dave, do you think that anything that science should generally affirm the idea that God created the universe? Also, What, in your opinion, are the problems that have been pointed out by the flat earthers? In addition, do you know where to draw the line between true science and science fiction...

I haven't seen that post yet... did I miss it? Perhaps you could provide the post number? Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

Where did you get the idea that Dave left the thread? Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

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Apparently it's a parody video making fun of flat earthers... Sent from my Pixel XL using TOL mobile app

You apparently didn't watch the full video then, as he did no such thing. He went and bought an angle measuring device, took measurements of the sun and moon, and then calculated the distances between each. No assumptions were made about the shape of the earth. He then applied those...

Don't forget the Bible... Sent from my Pixel XL using TheologyOnline mobile app

And here you are on a debate website saying "I don't have to consider the other side, I [just] have to present the counter point." That's not what a debate is, that's not how debates work, and the reason the fundamentals of debate are being discussed is that you don't seem to know them. At all...

Dave, What's your point with this video? We've already said that cameras like GoPros have a wide-angle lens that provides a lot of distortion. It sounds like you're trying to make a straw-man argument. Funnily enough, Dave, did you notice that even when the camera in that video was pointing...

LOL That's actually a pretty good scale model. Sent from my Pixel XL using TheologyOnline mobile app

So Dave, if you and I were out on the highway, and I pointed out a tiny dot on the road before us that was really far away from us and called it a car, would you say that what I said was absurd?

Dave, once again, you've shown that you've completely ignored the evidence we gave you. If you were to climb Mount Everest, the distance from you to the horizon would be about 230 miles, or about 370 km. On a flat earth, 29,029 ft (5.498 miles) above sea level would you well above any...