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Oh, well, a self declared 'rational human' declaring another human in disagreement an 'irrational one' is just so... Not impressive at all really. Who are you to call any other person 'irrational' with any sort of merit or credentials outside of inflated ego?

I doubt any future president can beat Trump's unenviable record: Only president to serve one term in office, lose both the popular and the electoral college vote, get impeached twice and lose by the exact same landslide margin he'd won by previously. I doubt any future president would want...

The Bible seems to indicate that God knows plenty about what's going to happen in the future.

Okay, I don't really have the time to go into complete depth point by point on this as being the holiday season an' all I've other things to do at present and besides which, it's getting parsed to bits. The core of the argument on your side appears to be this: Free will is neutralised if God has...

Clete, I've seen this sort of subject unfold plenty of times through the years and my intent was not to get involved in a drawn out convo with you on the matter. I've seen it argued from several opposing viewpoints that invariably get mired in pseudo-intellectual posturing and philosophical...

You're conflating foreknowledge with a lack of free will. I've already acknowledged that if God has foreknowledge that you are going to choose something or decide an action then 'T' is what you are going to do. What I'm arguing against is the notion that foreknowledge precludes it. Any given day...

I've answered in regards to foreknowledge in my previous so no need to restate. Once again, I'm not arguing for predestination or from a Calvinist perspective whatsoever.

Okay, sure, let's refer to a choice you make as 'T'. So, if God has foreknowledge (infallible by definition) that at some point you are going to do T then T at that point is what you will end up doing. Whether it's answering the phone, watching a film, going for a walk or whatever. That you're...

Exactly. If we try to limit God to our own insistence on what constitutes 'rationality' then how do we 'rationalize' an omnipotent being that has no beginning or end? We can't do that through any 'logical' frame of reference as such is completely beyond any frame of understanding. Everything on...

No, I didn't "say those things because I believe God can do the irrational" at all. That I believe that an omnipotent God isn't bound by our limited perspectives is not the same thing whatsoever. What may seem irrational to you isn't necessarily so simply because it doesn't fit into your...

Yes, so that has to include foreknowledge. In fact if it isn't infallible it isn't foreknowledge. Logic dictates that you are going to do something. For the purposes of the phone call scenario and presuming you're conscious and able to take the call then simplistically you're going to do one of...

Well, of course it would have to be infallible foreknowledge otherwise it might as well just be a strong hunch. In no way has that coerced, influenced or altered anything in itself. Your argument may as well be akin to someone being programmed to do something at a certain point in time that...

I'm in agreement with you on this as we've discussed elsewhere. :) This notion that foreknowledge negates free will (with you also on the limited free will aspect) is a non starter. It can also be quite easily dismissed. Say for the sake of argument I know that you're going to receive a phone...

Most regulars here know I'm not an American, hardly something I've ever been secretive about and other members of the forum aren't either. This isn't a USA exclusive club and commenting on American politics is and always has been fair game. If that sticks in your craw then tough really. I'll...

Oh dear, the denial is strong with you but as already noted, the facts don't care and the reality is that Trump won the election and these baseless allegations of fraud have been summarily dismissed and come to nothing. Now, you can claim that you've proven unicorns exist on Mars if you like, it...

Then stop denying reality and accept the facts. Trump lost the election and there was no widespread voter fraud. End of.

Oh, I don't have a problem thanks.

Pffft, I'll talk about politics of any country as I see fit so suck it up and deal with it.

The type of conspiracy garbage and lunacy bunk aired on here is something that at one time would have been given short shrift on TOL, not given the amount of airtime it currently has. It was considered embarrassing to conservatives, not something to embrace and some of the 'old guard' from...

It's a wonder that you dare step out of the front foil covered door...