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  1. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    So, this response ignores my last post and merely repeats your position. My response to it is the same as before. This is mostly true, of course, but I would point out that the undoing of the curse that Adam wrought upon the human race was undone at the cross for the whole human race...
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    Thieves should be shot - not jailed.

    "Do unto other as you would have them do unto you." Do you think that the golden rule is a good idea? If not then you're a complete idiot and not worth any more of anyone's time but if so, then it might interest you to know that the golden rule is the basis for all justice. Justice is simply...
  3. Clete

    SCOTUS just handed the left every national election from now on!

    The Supreme Court of the United States refused to hear the suit filed by Texas against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvanian and Wisconsin and they did so without explanation, precedent or right! When a court is THE ONLY court in which a case can be originally brought, that court has no right to...
  4. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Excellent clarification! Can I just take a second and say how refreshing it is to find someone who knows how to respond substantively and doesn't flip out just because someone doesn't immediately agree with them on a particular point! This is what TOL is supposed to look like! Okay, enough of...
  5. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Saying it doesn't make it so. That's not how doctrine is properly done. Watch this.... Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and...
  6. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    "Christ paid 100% of our sin debt to God" is not the entire gospel. That much of the gospel is contained within the third and forth points in my list but there can be no doubt that there is more to it than that, not the least of which is the belief that God raised Christ from the dead. You...
  7. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    That does not answer the question.
  8. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Good point! That point and others similar to it that I had seen being made on various threads over an extended period of time is what gave me the idea to take the time to try to figure out what was "enough". If simply believing that Jesus died, spent three days in the grave and then rose from...
  9. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Exactly! This general idea is what I was driving at when I was talking to her about how the compromises made are only ever in favor of science over scripture. When someone says "The bible isn't a science book." what they are saying is that we should expect that the bible got some of the...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Do you really believe that people who accept as true everything in my list of gospel doctrines but then also make the mistake of believing that James chapter two was written to all Christianity and that it applies as much to them as it did to James' actual audience, that they are therefore lost...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    The bible teaches both.
  12. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    There is no doubt that words have a sphere of meaning and that if someone wants to load the otherwise easy to understand and plainly stated words I've used with alternative meanings then there's no doubt that someone who mouth the words and still be lost but one cannot go around stating such...
  13. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    I agree with you, I too could get on here and argue the left's side way more effectively than anyone on this website ever has but who wants to do that? Trump Girl is no leftist, is she? I mean, the name "Trump Girl" has got to mean that she's not like minded with the Nancy Pelosi's of the...
  14. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Okay, I see. You're liar! It's plain and simply cut and dried as that. You are a waste of everyone's time here. I can't imagine what you're even doing here. I can promise you this. You've wasted the last second of my time. Donime, quo vadis? Away from you! Is there anyone left on TOL...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Disagreeing with you is not insulting you TG. Ask anyone around here. If my intention was to insult you, there'd be no way for anyone to have any doubt about it. When I'm being insulting, I don't use words like "tacitly" and "implication" and I do not make counter arguments. I use words like...
  16. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    What corner am I in TG? You haven't refuted a single point I've made. All you've done is whine like a cry baby.
  17. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    The post is all still right there for everyone to read TG. The implications of your comments are clear and you don't even deny them. There rest of this post was simple stupidity. It's clear you didn't even bother to read the bulk of my post. You're one of the emotionally fragile people I've...
  18. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    There was no twisting of words. I reacted to the issues that your statement implies and that are the only issues that could possibly be the basis for such a statement. Your insesant whining about being procecuted by anyone who posts a syllable in disagreement with you is wearing rather thin...
  19. Clete

    JudgeRightly's PotD December 8, 2020

    There's so much more to say there but I was totally in a time crunch and had to cut it short. If someone picks up the discussion, there will be time to flash it out later.
  20. Clete

    My Problem with Creation Science

    So, it seems that Trump Girl's point with this thread is that we should all be fine with it if it turns out that bible is proven to be in contradiction to the scientific facts of reality. Notice the implied preference for science over the scripture. It's fine to discard anything the bible says...
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