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It isn't hard at all! First of all, there isn't any immunity to ANY similar virus that lasts for years. That just does not happen with this type of virus. More importantly, they can watch people who have had the virus and see if and when they get it again. Turns out that the research points to...

What? It isn't an assumption. COVID19 is not the first virus to show up, Marke. It's not even the first Corona Virus to show up. We do have some understanding of how long the immune system responds to such viruses and there isn't any reason to think (i.e. to assume) that somehow this virus is...

Yes I did! You're the one who is ignoring the science here, Marke! And that's the real issue here as far as I'm concerned. I don't really give a damn whether you get the vaccine or not. What I care about is the fact that I've responded to every emotion based, nonsensical, fear mongering...

So how is that inconsistent with what I've been saying? - It's not! Besides that, you were talking about how long natural (i.e. post infection) immunity lasts and there is actual published research on that specific question. What we know about natural immunity The good news is that there is...

Then skip the J&J vaccine. The other, more effective ones, don't have anything to do with such research.

I already responded to this fear mongering nonsense. Irrelevant

Look, stop just saying stupid things off the top of your head. It's ridiculous and embarrassing. This took me literally ten seconds to find with a single google search. How long does COVID 19 immunity last.

Yes, probably 4 - 6 but in some as long as 8 months. It is perhaps longer in a person is repeatedly exposed to the virus. Whether you get the immunity from the vaccine or from the actual virus isn't likely to matter because your immune system does give a rip where the invasion force came from...

It is a lot like the flu except that it has a death rate as much as four times as high. Of course, the real death rate cannot really be known because the number both of cases and of death have been so completely screwed up but in early 2020 there wasn't anyone who thought the death rate was...

It actually isn't a "drug" at all and "gene-altering" is an over statement. The MRNA instructs a particular type of immune cell to create the proteins that are found on the outside of the virus body. These are the proteins that the virus uses to gain access to the cells it infects but by...

How many times do I have to repeat the fact that time is NOT the relevant factor! Even post infection immunity is TEMPORARY!!!! The relevant factor is doses given and efficacy rate vs side effects, the number for which could hardly be any better than they are! I mean you couldn't have...

It may actually turn out to be one of the most effective vaccines that has ever been developed for any virus in the history of medical science. The Rabies vaccine probably has it beat, its pretty much 100% effective and the Flu vaccine is only 40-60% effective and for only one season! Note...

Well, what can I tell you? They've done tests on various groups who have gotten the Pfizer vaccine and less than 1% of them aquire the disease after having been fully vaccinated. Less than 1% post vaccine infection rate sounds like better than 99% effective to me! The Centers for Disease...

But the virus it protects you against isn't. If you haven't been exposed yet, you almost certainly will be eventually unless you plan on living the rest of your life in your own house.

Stupidity There are good reasons to not get the vaccine. Nothing you've said in this entire thread is one of them aside from the single fact that you've had the disease and if you had it more than six months ago, even that isn't a good one.

Says you. The published science says that less than 1% of people who have gotten the Pfizer vaccine become symptomatic after having been intentionally exposed to the virus. Now you're just making stuff up. The precipitous fall in both positive test rates and hospitalizations are directly...

.003% of people die after getting the shot vs. 2% of people who get COVID19. Both of those numbers are high but they both come from the same government sources so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. One of those death rate numbers is 667 times bigger than the other. Clete

While this is true, there is no evidence that the vaccine is any less effective and, in fact, there has been more than one study that shows less than 1% of those vaccinated aquire the disease after having been intentionally exposed to the virus and so it would be difficult to get much more...

Thank you for making my point! Even if the vaccine has caused someone to die, we know that the statistic is .003% at the most which is a very very tiny percentage already!

Yes, the number I gave were worst case. The fact that the numbers are inflated only boosts my point. You can't know that. I've had a hard time fining any data at all on post infection immunity. What I have found suggests (which means they don't know) that post infection immunity may only last 4...