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  1. Derf

    Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !

    Yes, but not necessarily everyone who is reconciled to God is saved by Jesus' life. (That seems strangely similar to what I wrote before, maybe because what you wrote was strangely similar to what you wrote before.)
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    Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !

    Yes, but as you point out, it applies to "we", but the reconciliation could very easily still be a larger group than that of the "saved", since the salvation is a promise, not something already accomplished. If it's already accomplished, then there's no need to emphasize the "promise" part, right?
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    Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !

    Since there's a two step process, then it's possible for some to be reconciled by His death (first step), but not be saved by his resurrection (second step)?
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    Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief !

    You're on the right track for once, @beloved57. But we aren't saved by the reconciliation; it's by his life, that is, his resurrection.
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment biblical or not?

    Even if we're talking about two resurrections, the second one also includes some that are in the Lamb's book of life (maybe they died during the millennium), and they come out of their graves into life, while others come out of their graves into condemnation. Both are conditions that happen in...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment biblical or not?

    No, the resurrection speaks of two groups, comprising "all that are in the graves": John 5:28-29 (KJV) 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment biblical or not?

    Matthew 22:30 (KJV) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment biblical or not?

    Then you can see how they can't die anymore, because they've been resurrected in immortal bodies?
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment biblical or not?

    No, the first death is not eternal, all are resurrected from it. At that time death is swallowed up in victory, and itself destroyed in the lake of fire. After that, the alternative for not being in the Lamb's book of life is the second death--something different than the first death, since...
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    Hi to all

    I thought that was Minnie Pearl.
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    Hi to all

    I didn't think "online" existed in 1947. 😉
  12. Derf

    God Cannot 'Murder'

    God can't murder, agreed, but Dominic's reasoning made it out to be because God has made man immortal from the beginning, and He just moves man from one box to another. If that is true, then not only is it impossible for God to murder someone, it is also impossible for God to kill someone.
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    uh oh USA

    That's so funny and awful at the same time. At first I was thinking some of the people might be nervous getting asked these questions on camera, but when they started figuring the math problems, it showed exactly what was happening. These children have been made idiots by our public school system.
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    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    Do you think belief in God helps you after you are dead?
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    Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

    Do you think there might be a more immediate advantage, rather than just an evolutionary one, as evolutionary advantages seem to be designed to benefit only those that come after you?
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    Our Moral God

    What about the cloud by day and fire by night?
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    Our Moral God

    That sounds harder to fathom imo.
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    Our Moral God

    Why do you think it's easier to fathom the burning bush than others?
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    End of Roe Vs Wade?

    Such is killing the Republican Party. Not that they weren't already culpable for the abortion deaths due to wicked judges that legalized it nationally in the first place. But Trump showed a bit of repentance, which might actually slow down God's impending acts of justice. The wording is odd...
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    Limited atonement !

    Were you ever a "child of disobedience", beloved57?
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