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Then you agree with what I was saying--Matthias wasn't specially indicated by the Holy Spirit's interventions of the day more than others.

You have evidence for that, or are you speculating? I don't see the connection. We've been through this. If they had full authority, and were using it, they wouldn't need to cast lots. That Paul met Jesus' requirements to be an apostle? You're joking, right? I'm not seeing the connection...

That's interesting you would say that, after you provided a piece of non-evidence. Makes me wonder if I can trust what you tell me.

I understand you are using other evidence, which you feel is telling you that, but using his speaking in tongues with the others at Pentecost is not one of those, as you've just admitted.

And thus you can't use it as a sign of him being Christ's choice to replace Judas.

Can you explain why not?

That doesn't say how many spoke in tongues, just how many stood up. There were undoubtedly more than 12 in the upper room.

That's pretty hard to read. If you reply to the whole post of someone, then select the point where you want to comment and hit "enter". The editor will add in the right stuff to keep your postings separate from theirs.

You said "explicitly". Can you elicit what you meant? Why would I think that? Can you give me scripture? Ok. He was willing to wait another year for Israel. Why wouldn't He be willing to wait another year for #12? Numerology is an inexact science. You can make it say a whole lot of stuff...

Do you think Paul can't write to the Jews even if He agreed not to "go" to the the Jews? Invalid. Assumes that the replacement had to be made immediately but God often has a different timetable than men. Can you point to the scripture that tells exactly how many were filled with the Spirit and...

You make much of the number 12, but it doesn't help you if Paul could be one of those twelve--and I don't see anything the proves he couldn't be. Mat 19:28 was obviously spoken to more than twelve of His disciples, or Matthias and Joseph Barsabas would not qualify. But if both qualified so well...

The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof [is] of the LORD. [Proverbs 16:33 KJV] But the disciples, not exercising their authority to select Judas's replacement, as you would have us believe they had, instead only determined the candidates, and left the choice to the casting...

I understand that, and that's why I don't buy into the MAD doctrine--they take it too far. There is significant evidence that all of them eventually went elsewhere and preached to Gentiles, especially right before 70 AD when Jerusalem was destroyed. The evidence may not be as trustworthy as the...

I still need to go back through and respond to your, @Right Divider's, and @JudgeRightly's previous posts, as I haven't had time to do so. Just so you all know, I am in some significant agreement with dispensationalism, and I do think there will be an earthly kingdom, characterized by Jesus...

Or it could mean that I haven't settled on my doctrinal view in this area, and I need to consider any valid options. Something to think about, yes? Something to emulate, maybe?

And when it was day, he called [unto him] his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; [Luke 6:13 KJV] Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? [John 6:70 KJV] I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the...

The Bible explicitly says "Matthias will be one of those who will sit upon TWELVE thrones over the TWELVE tribes of Israel in the coming Kingdom in the New Jerusalem which has TWELVE gates"? I must have missed that verse.

Remember that they weren't exactly fond of him. Allowing him to do what Christ wanted (go to the Gentiles) and them to do what they wanted (stay away from the Gentiles) made sense to them, but they all eventually went to the Gentiles.

He was numbered by whom? Just because most thought of him as one of the twelve doesn't mean Jesus thought of him that way. And Jesus is the only one that matters. Jesus personally picked all of the eleven (plus Judas), then personally picked Paul. He only indirectly picked Matthias. But I've...

If I wrote that, the first part would be with tongue planted firmly in cheek. If that's not how you meant it, could you explain?