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  1. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    I didn't say they did. I said we all die due to our ancestor Adam's sin. Is there a reason you can't acknowledge that, just like @Clete can't seem to?
  2. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    Because of Adam's sin. We all are subject to death because of Adam's sin. All of us. No assumptions needed. Death is the wages of sin, it's not what God originally designed for us. Everyone, as expressed above, is subject to death, or death is appointed unto everyone, because of Adam's sin...
  3. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    You didn't deal with any of my examples. How about you just deal with the death of David's son. David deserved death, according to the law. Instead, he was allowed to live, and his innocent newborn sin died--because of David's sin. I have no doubt that God is just. But I doubt whether we...
  4. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    It's a little funny that you say that after I showed something that refuted it. If the wages of sin is death, and someone dies, then it must be the result of someone's sin. If a baby dies in the womb, before he has a chance to sin, then it must be because of someone else's sin, not the baby's...
  5. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    2 Samuel 12:13-14 KJV — And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die. Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is...
  6. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    Didn't the Levites pay tithes to Melchizedek in Abraham? Didn't the offspring of DAVID become kings because David was king--they sat on their father David's throne? Weren't Saul's sons disrnthroned because of Saul's sons? Didn't David's first son with Bathsheba die SPECIFICALLY because of...
  7. Derf

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    If we're going by the scriptural usage, believing is not a work in the same sense that keeping the law was. Which should we go by, the current dictionary, or scriptural usage? But we should consider other sources that are closer to the time of the scriptures. Here's the Webster 1828 dictionary...
  8. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    Depends on whether that someone made a mistake or not.
  9. Derf

    The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability

    Sounds like we are all under some kind of judgment due to Adam's sin. Is this you talking, or is this biblical? Something that is never defined such in the bible. What we were told would happen is that Adam was made from dust and would return to dust. Where did the spiritually dead stuff come...
  10. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    This is an important point, as a jury can't be legally held accountable for a poor judgment. They all disappear back into civilian life the same, whether they judged righteously or not, only to appear on another jury with no questions allowed about prior jury decisions.
  11. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    When I was on a jury once, the judge carefully instructed us on the "beyond reasonable doubt" criterion. He was adamant that we not consider it to be "no doubt whatsoever", because there is always some doubt. If there is some doubt, then 100% proof of guilt cannot be established. If it cannot be...
  12. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Reasonable doubt is not no doubt at all. You say you are ok with our current system, but our current system does not require 100%. That would be beyond a shadow of doubt. So which is it for you? Reasonable doubt (<100%) or beyond a shadow of doubt (100%)?
  13. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Um...you use examples where cases were not proven 100% to say the standard of 100% is possible, and you complain about me not having much of a point?
  14. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    You've set up an impossible standard, one you've just admitted you can't follow. And because you can't know which are 100% proven and which aren't, Your only option is to do away with the death penalty in its entirety. Since the OP is about properly enforcing something you don't support at all...
  15. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Can you guarantee 100% in any case you didn't witness yourself?
  16. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    "Some value" is not a valid standard. God did away with Adam and Eve based on their sin, but they still had value to Him, because they were made in His image.
  17. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Measuring from sentence to execution, it takes more than twelve years to carry out fully reviewed death sentences in the United States. Yet in death penalty cases, full and timely review is not assured. At year-end 2005, 43 percent of those sentenced to death between 1973 and 2005 were still in...
  18. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Are you able to determine if someone is guilty 100% of the time? God recognizes the value of appeal, but doesn't require it. The first thing we could do is eliminate automatic appeal of all death penalty sentences, right?
  19. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    Absolutely. But that doesn't include the protocol of "never execute anyone." Here's a good one: Deuteronomy 21:1-9 KJV — If one be found slain in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him: Then thy elders and thy judges...
  20. Derf

    Properly Enforcing the Death Penalty

    I can't. Jesus Christ can, and will.
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