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How does one apply something spiritually? What do you mean by "spirit"?

Depends on what you mean by "the spirit". Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV — Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. This describes death prior to Christ's resurrection. It is in keeping with Gen 3, where God described death as returning to the...

I guess it's hard to get past the "wrong" that means "right". But see if this does it. Do they take on a new nature? If so, then they may be the same person, but that person is significantly different than before. Christians often take on a new name when they accept Christ. They have taken on...

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That's pretty effective for maintaining adversarial relationships, too. He whom we call Jesus existed as something other than what we call Jesus. That person now exists as Jesus Christ, forever the God-man. But He wasn't the God-man at one time. This is a key point in the argument for Open...

The angel gave the name before He was conceived. Joseph and Mary gave Him the name about 9 months and 8 says later. Those two naming events bound the conception. "Approximately" works quite well for such circumstances. Unless you are determined to now squabble over the definition of...

It astounds me that you first argue with what I say, then you repeat it as the countervailing truth. I said this: And you answered this: Of those underlined statements, one says He was called Jesus 9 months and 8 days after conception (which certainly fits the "approximate" time frame compared...

What we know is that "the Word" took on flesh at a point in time. At approximately the same point in time, He was given a name He had previously never used before, as far as we know. The name "Jesus" is associated with "the Word" only after He, "the Word", took on flesh. So it's legitimate to...

If Jesus is a man, then there was definitely a time when he did not exist. Adam was the first man, not Jesus.

Jesus was both man and God. As such He did not exist. As God, He did, but that was before He was Jesus. To say, "Jesus existed from all eternity," has two possible meanings. If you pick one, and your debate opponent picks the other, you might both be right...until you say the other guy is wrong...

Jesus was both man and God. As such He did not exist. As God, He did, but that was before He was Jesus. To say, "Jesus existed from all eternity," has two possible meanings. If you pick one, and your debate opponent picks the other, you might both be right...until you say the other guy is wrong...

Ok. Josiah was called Josiah before he was born, too. But neither of them existed before then. Jesus did not exist as a man before He was conceived in Mary. Why is this controversial?

It's pretty funny that in the post where you accuse me of heresy, you make the exact same points I made. "His fleshy body did not exist prior to the Holy Spirit moving on Mary. He wasn't called Jesus prior to him being 8 days old." You would call me a heretic for that?

That man-child did not exist at one time. Are you saying Jesus the man existed before He was conceived?

I'll let him refute himself, though I dont remember if it was in ch 1-4. Do it here, or that thread you mentioned you would start?