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Looking at another LGBT Hero, Kristin Beck. A transgender woman who prior to transitioning served 20 years in the US Navy Special Forces (SEALS). She served seven combat deployments. She served in SEAL TEAM ONE and SEAL TEAM SIX. Serving on the teams as a "breacher" the person who took the...

From the article you link, it sounds like no framing was required. If this account is correct it seems the young man was taking advantage of him. I would be glad to learn that his death was a result of an accident doing the things that he loved. It doesn't alter that he was treated poorly by...

So having listed my LGBT hero, I've decided to list some more here as I find them. Mark Bingham Mr. Bingham was a public relations executive who founded his own company the Bingham Group. A starring Rugby player he was part of national winning teams in college and after graduating he played...

So aCW loves pull from a list of people who he tells me are supposed to be my heros. Until he brought them up in this forum, I had never heard of any of them. I thought I would bring up the LGBT person that I consider to be my hero, Alan Turing. I am into computers, served my country during...

As near as I can judge, aCW sees LGBT people as a homogeneous group that is divided into two or three baskets (stereotypes) so he can condemn them. For myself, I don't see them as a homogeneous group. I see, based on current demographics in the US, over 9 million individual PEOPLE. Some of...

All civil rights movements have an agenda, it would not be a movement with goals. It started out with wanting to 'be left alone', in other words, stop the abuse of them as a minority and then as they gained acceptance it expanded to equal treatment. This is a natural trend of all civil rights...

Nope, I did a search and it never came up but that forum tends to stay more focused on current politics than this one. As you point out the trial seems to have been an obscure event and wouldn't have come up there unless it was part of DC or major state politics. Lacking any more details I...

Yes, the 'secular humanist' is a realist that realizes that just driving it back underground will not be any more effective than it was for the rest of Human history. Far better to bring the wilder elements of under control and into society by using the same tools that society has always used...

As I noted in my reply, he tends to fall back to the No True Scotsman Fallacy to deal with things that don't fit his stereotypes.

Yes, it is customary to celebrate good news. There has likely been more since then and hopefully one day that will be every day. And more who only practice it occasionally, use proper precautions, limit their partners to avoid exposure, etc. You seem to engage in the "No True Scotsman"...

So you are at least agreeing now that the myth that all gay men engage in anal sex is not true. Does this mean you have no problem with the million or so (based on the above percentage and LGBT demographics) in the US who don't?

There are bad people in any group. I agree the Bean case is very embarrassing for HRC and the civil rights community.

I stand corrected. The initial search I did of legal sites came up with 14 as the age of consent. Once I went back and dug in further it seems that only applies if the other parties involved are also teenagers. That based on the other details I found, I find that I agree with you. Terry...

Good to see you weren't completely making it up. The boy was still over the age of consent in Oregan so as I pointed out your 12-year-old remark still remains without a basis. It is not shame to recognize that not everyone engages in those activities that fascinate you so. Or to point out...

Yes you do love misrepresenting people who disagree with you. Yes, your continuing love affair with NAMBLA and lowering the age of consent. I'm sorry to have to tell you but there is no sign of it happening, you are just going to have to live with the fact that your dream of legalizing...

From my research so far the compelling interest once you set aside the genetics issue is simply societal. The federal government has no ban on adult incest and the states vary on it. There are even some states that have no law on the books at all and never have. The adult-youth issue is...

Ahh sorry crossing so many streams here I started to lose track. Yes, consent is not an issue in adult incestuous acts. It is a MAJOR issue in bestiality. Hmmm not really, a slippery slope argument only implies that one act will lead to another, moral superiority is not a requirement...

That you made up a stupid label to try and lie about me and then lied again to move the goalposts when you were called on it? Yes, it is pretty much there in the thread for everyone to see.

And if consent were not an issue you might have a point but it is an issue and no amount of your dancing around the subject or promoting slippery slope arguments will alter the fact that there is no realistic movement to lower age of consent. Age of consent laws have only gone up. So a couple...

Noticed that did you? I had just decided to ignore it. The more he does stuff like that, the more he undermines his credibility to other readers of this thread.