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Most do (I do, incidently). I'd simply say: believe what is in the Bible and be careful with what is not. There are scriptures that talk about not being able to flee from God's presence from David, Psalm 139:7-12 for example. At the very least, your conversation with Open Theists will...

I don't even think Enyart would have said that about him. It was more, I think, that he wasn't prepared for the debate. I think Enyart and staff prep well for debates. Where, btw, in this thread was that debate posted. I cannot seem to find it again :( (Please and ty). Sorry I missed...

I noticed that too, though I'd not say "anything Bible" it was less than what I expected.

Haven't used one so I believe you. This one has an odd way of changing text if I get too close to the mousepad so I think the sensitivity is the culprit. It often jumps several lines mangling other text and I can't always find the right key (keyboard class made old (and good but for this...

Has so much power when the OT and NT quotes are laid side by side like that. Thanks -Lon

Brief response: True, Mr. Enyart, No prophecy fails, you are correct most believe that ( It isn't just Calvinists that believe that). Of course Brian was silent about 'failed' prophecies. According to us, there weren't any. "God in the Bible tells us it (Open Theist presentation of a...

Jeremiah 18:8

Ah, I see but didn't you quote the correct one too? (This laptop really is problematic for typing :( ) 2 Timothy 1:9

Didn't we just discuss them 'from' the Bible? 🤔 Well, no. You cannot demonstrate such. If someone is showing Bible words, and you are seeing them and more, YOU are even posting them, then it is 'exact(ly the) opposite: you, an Open Theist, posted that someone was without 1) succession AND...

Agree, not to be mistaken. Next then, what does it 'teach' about time? 1) that a certain one (Melchizedek) had 'no' beginning? Or more specifically, 'no beginning of days?' Which does it say? You even said 'without succession or sequence' in your quote! Clearly? 🤔 It is difficult to...

See, Clete. I love talking over theology with JudgeRightly because he 'does it rightly.' Just the scriptures. It is an entry point where both of us can simply discuss, in detail, what God says. It isn't a "Calvinist" or "Open Theist" commercial and set of flaccid mantras but actually...

Which is why you are on ignore. I'm not in ANY way a liar. You are just full of it and CANNOT argue out of a paper bag, so you resort to name-calling and ignorance, your's. Sorry, fact. It is WHY you are Open Theism's worst proponent. You, in fact, are inept and incapable. This? This...

A short response: - is timeless Hebrews 13:8 And Colossians 1:16,17 and John 1:3 - in an eternal now John 8:58 'before' 'am' (both) - without sequence or succession Hebrews 13:8 - without moment or duration " " 2 Peter 3:8 Psalm 90:4 - atemporal and outside of time Hebrews 7:3? Without...

I have these same questions so appreciate them being asked. -Lon

Yes, when He created. If by 'time' you mean 'doing something' I'd acquiesce that aspect of time, God wasn't sitting unmoving in a void. For us, however, our grasp of time is very much tied to our physical perceptions. Even in heaven from Revelation, there is a throne, people around Jesus...

Interestingly, I gave the same argument. Time is a property only of a physical universe. God is relational, as per ozos concern, to time thus involved with it, but it is essential that we see God as not constrained in any way, by containers. Time measured physical change and duration.

There is a difference then. Good to keep in mind in these conversations.

This is a bit like "Mathematics." You might say God is 'Mathematical' but it isn't the same for God as for us. All of our grasp and thoughts are 'discovered' and learned. "Logic" is a 'making sense of' and so in a real sense, most of the time, 'simple logic' is 'human logic,' by its very...

My answer: Read the full context. The prophets of Israel were making up lies. Micaiah reported their thinking as well as what was behind it, clearly, if there were lies, they were expelled at this point and made plain else Micaiah would have 'thwarted God' at that point. Because of that...

Struck me: Didn't you attend school in England? (such likely affects perhaps a stark difference in conversation here)