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  1. Derf

    Our Moral God

    I'm not the one who keeps using the word I'm defining in the definition.
  2. Derf

    Our Moral God

    Don't be afraid. Just spell it out. What do you mean by "human nature"?
  3. Derf

    Our Moral God

    I don't think everybody that says "human nature" is talking about the same thing, so I'd like to know what you mean when you say it. It isn't that easy a question, is it?
  4. Derf

    Our Moral God

    Right, but what do you count as "human nature"?
  5. Derf

    Our Moral God

    And what is included in the human nature He took on?
  6. Derf

    Our Moral God

    How many times has He taken on a human nature ?
  7. Derf

    Our Moral God

    'Some common synonyms of righteous are ethical, moral, noble, and virtuous.' Merriam-Webster And moral. All of which are immoral. Only walking in the spirit, instead of in the flesh, enables us to live moral and righteous lives.
  8. Derf

    Our Moral God

    So Jesus was immortal, then He became mortal, right? He laid aside some of His eternally-held characteristics to become flesh. Jesus then died, and rise again in immortality, something that will happen to us, too, if we believe in Him. If we believe in Him, then we will also want to do as He...
  9. Derf

    Our Moral God

    Was Jesus immortal before He was crucified? Are you immortal?
  10. Derf

    Our Moral God

    No, our disagreement was based solely on the completely obvious meaning of the single word "death", which is hardly anything like "mortal". ;) That's what it seems like, anyway.
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    Our Moral God

    I'm not even sure why it matters to him. There are plenty of people who struggle over what it meant for Jesus to become a man. You and I haven't always agreed on that, even.
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    Our Moral God

    You can't die if you're immortal. That's what immortal means. The scriptures you gave only prove He was mortal, because He died, however He might have done so. What you're suggesting is that anyone who might commit suicide could be counted as immortal, because no one took their lives away from...
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    The promise of the Messiah was for the restoration of life from the dead. That promise was made in Genesis 3, before Israel existed. [Gen 3:15 KJV] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel...
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    Not true at all. Explaining to someone they can be saved from their sins and live forevermore doesn't require the word grace at all.
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    But it wasn't missing the most important element, that the Messiah had come. Sure, they didn't know all the details about how that would play out, including how it would bring in the Gentiles, but it was good news, because from Jesus would come everlasting life. The gospel isn't just about...
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    Our Moral God

    I don't understand how you can say that Jesus, who was still immortal, could die. Immortal means you can't die, despite the recent spate of super-hero movies suggesting otherwise.
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    Don't be so stuck in your systematic that you don't read the text. They were seeing the gospel played out before, the good news that Jesus overcame death. They didn't have to hear it being taught.
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    Jesus, newly raised from the dead, is talking to them, breathing on them, eating with them, showing them His scars, telling them about receiving the Holy Spirit, and you say they only know about the kingdom?
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    did man ever remit sin ?

    I always thought they remitted sins by sharing the gospel, but I admit that the answer isn't fully compelling.
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    Our Moral God

    Did you find other scriptures than the ones you already quoted? Because they didn't "literally" say that the testimony of Jesus is the 10 commandments. Just like the other verses we talked about didn't "explicitly" say anything about you, Gary, specifically. That's part of His testimony, sure...
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