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  1. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    So what? The quote conveys a principle. Do you seriously not have any idea how such a principle can be applied in more than one situation? Yeah, or any other situation in which the principle applies! You can't possibly be this stupid! Then again, you don't seem to know how to use a search...
  2. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    Seriously? Would you like a refresher course on how to use Google? "Wake Up, Parents!". Column at Jewish World Review, www.jewishworldreview.com. August 18, 2000 Asked and answered.
  3. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    By those who stand to benefit from it and who have a personal interest in how the money is spent. "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." - Thomas Sowell...
  4. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    This is, frankly, naive. If only scientists were so honest! Consensus based on facts is the way it is supposed to work, but if you think that modern science isn't up to its neck in politics, you need to wake up. There are at least three major aspects of modern science that are severely...
  5. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    There's lots of evidence! First of all, just to give one piece of evidence myself and in my own words, the concept of spacetime is tied directly to what is called the isotropic constancy of the speed of light. This property of light is very weird. Most people do not understand it so let me...
  6. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    I saw it. It's a catchy headline but there isn't anyway that mainstream science is coming within a million light years of accepting the idea that space/time isn't a real thing that expands and contracts depending on which way something moves and that somehow "curves" to create gravity (curves in...
  7. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    You sound like a new age nut, was the point!
  8. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    So what are you even doing here if you aren't going to discuss things with people?
  9. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    Nonsense from the beginning to end. Science isn't beginning to say that time doesn't exist! The whole of modern cosmology is predicated on the idea that time does exist and that space and time are the same thing. Yeah, the first half of my life was spent thinking about Einstein's theories. He...
  10. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    Events occur and objects exist but that isn't what time is nor does it require time for those things to happen, except in terms of the CONCEPT of time. Time is not what allows things to happen, existence is what allows things to happen but the duration and sequence of events and the location of...
  11. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Man! That guy sure knows how to turn a phrase. I love it when people say so much in a single sentence like that!
  12. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    Why do people who know they've been cornered feel like double speak is a way out? I will never understand just who it is they're trying to convince! The concept is a reality because concepts exist in a mind but do numbers exist as something other than a concept? In what way is it external to...
  13. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    @nikolai_42 seems to be trying to NOT understand. This is just not that difficult a concept to grasp. N42, do you believe that numbers actually exist, in the ontological sense? Is the number 42 a real thing in the same sense that a rock is a real thing or it is a concept? I'm not talking about...
  14. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Are you really sitting there trying to convince me that you'd have no power, no ability, no way at all of refusing a bowl of vanilla ice cream, that it's utterly outside your decision making ability and that you will eat that bowl of ice cream, without any doubt whatsoever and without any chance...
  15. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    There is no contradiction, just a misunderstanding or an ignoring of the context. Time does not exist ontologically. Time does exist as a concept. Open Theist do not object to the use of the concept of time - at all. What we object to is pretending that time is more than just an idea and that...
  16. Clete

    Our Moral God

    The identity principle is the foundation of all knowledge. What is, is. A is A. It's more than a principle it is a law of reason. ALL intelligible communication has it as a core presupposition. It has two corollaries which together make up the three laws of reason... 1. The law of identity...
  17. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    Sorry, Lon! I couldn't follow any of that. Probably not in the sense you mean it, although I'm having dificulty knowing just what you're getting at here, so it depends, I suppose. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't say that God isn't timeless because He experiences both duration and sequence and...
  18. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I suppose from a certain perspective that a concept's necessary conditions could be considered part of that things definition but only by implication and your insistence on making them explicit it is making this discussion almost impossible because you refuse to acknowledge the distinction...
  19. Clete

    Time doesn't exist.

    No! JR made the whole argument above. Time is not a thing, its an idea and the question cannot even be asked without employing a self-contradiction. There can be no such thing as "BEFORE" time. The proposition is as textbook an example of a self-stultifying concept as there could ever be.
  20. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Okay, first of all, pointing out that there's a lot of people who agree, IS NOT AN APPEAL TO POPULARITY FALLACY!!!!! You just cannot understand how much it drives me crazy when people do this sort of thing! It's just so much hubris. It's just an attempt to say something that makes you sound...
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